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    Why is Your Filthy Little Mouth the Rodney Dangerfield of all the various Van Halen offshoots? Sure it's got some diversity to it, but it's not like it's jazz or something. Poor ol' Dave gets flack if he does the same ol' same ol', and then he gets it if he tries something different (though it still remains to be seen how different his current project is, but that's neither here nor there right now). Not a lot of room to work there! Anyway, while maybe not his strongest album, it deserved better than it got from the music world and the fans:

    "She's My Machine" - this song should've gotten good airplay. Great guitar sound and the song's about a car, which is always a pretty safe bet. But I don't remember hearing this song on the radio at all.

    "Everybody's Got The Monkey" - I don't like monkeys, but again, this song is a nice little rocker.

    "Big Train" - another good rocker chuggin' on through!

    "Experience" - great concept, slight slip on the execution. Don't know what's up with that intro, but when the actual song starts the music is smokin' and Dave's got a good vibe and voice going. Then Dave slips his voice into some place it shouldn't go when he starts singing
    "Experience
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    Is it like doing ninety..." etc.
    Still a good song

    "A Little Luck" - a song with horns, a different direction but no further off track than stuff like "Big Bad Bill (Is Sweet William Now)", "Just A Gigolo/I Ain't Got Nobody", "Easy Street", "I'm Easy" or "That's Life". The female background singers is kind of a change, but still, it's pure Dave.

    "Cheatin' Heart Cafe" - does this song only get flack because of the presence of Travis Tritt? Or is it because it has a country-esque vibe? I don't know - I like it, but I've seen a lot of people around here say they don't.

    "Hey, You Never Know" - this one's got kind of a country vibe, too. But Dave sounds good doing this.

    "No Big 'Ting" - Dave goes carribean! With some help from some guy named Mitchielous. I hesitate to call it reggae, though, because Dave doesn't really have a reggae voice. A fun song.

    "You're Breathin' It" - this actually sounds like it could've fit on Skyscraper to me, a little bit. Dave's got the ol' blues harp going.

    "Your Filthy Little Mouth" - a nice little southern boogie. The female voice was a nice touch.

    "Land's Edge" - Dave the storyteller. Nice groove.

    "Night Life" - Again Dave getting mellow, this time with a song written by Willie Nelson. Never heard the original, but I like what Dave does here.

    "Sunburn" - with the intro, I keep kind of expecting Dave to break into "O Mexico" - haven't really played 'em side-by-side to see how close they really are - probably not at all, but that's what it makes me think. Dave's own song in the vein of "Coconut Grove". This is closer to what he should probably be doing these days.

    Anyway, I just don't understand why this album wasn't given a chance. I remember it getting dogged on before it even came out - that's one of the reasons it took me so long to get it, but now that I have it and have listened to it, I realise what a mistake that was. Hopefully if you're a fan of Dave's work, and you don't have this one, you'll go out and find it.
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    Originally posted by billy007:
    Why is Your Filthy Little Mouth the Rodney Dangerfield of all the various Van Halen offshoots? Sure it's got some diversity to it, but it's not like it's jazz or something.
    And what, pray tell, is wrong with jazz? If you don't think DLR has an immense respect for jazz, then you don't know DLR.
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    Nothing wrong with good jazz, it's just the form of music that came to mind when I was trying to think about what could be considered a departure from what Dave normally does - could've easily said swing or punk or rap, but I just happened to pick jazz! (why do I feel like John Lennon right now?)

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    While I don't think it's a high mark of the Roth catalogue, I sometimes think YFLM is probably the closest DLR album to his actual tastes and personality. He has always given the impression that he's as interested in other music styles as he is in straight ahead rock and roll.

    I think a large part of the problem is that the changing musicians just sapped Dave of credibility. Had he kept a line-up consistent for a large part of his solo career I think he'd have been better off in terms of how relevant he seemed. I think the seeds of Dave's solo career were sown when he didn't try to make the EEAS band a group of equals. When he chose to be the boss, he sealed his fate as a singer with a revolving door of musicians. Not many world class musicians are going to stick around for an extended period of time when they've being relegated to back up players.

    Back to YFLM, I like the sound of it, which is important. Bad sound can really ground an album to a halt; Skyscraper suffers from this, it has great songs but the production is terrible. I think Dave made a good sounding record with Nile Rodgers here, though the bass should have been WAY louder (what's with low bass sounds with everybody in the VH realm?). The songs;

    She's My Machine is a good rocking song, though it has a bit of a feel of a song that never makes it to the finish line. It turns around and repeats itself when it seems like it hasn't yet made its point.

    Everybody's Got the Monkey is alright. Nothing special about it though.

    Big Train is a great song, one of Dave's best, especially the bluesy ending.

    Experience is a great song too, very cool lyrics. The high vocal part though is a mess. Dave sounds terrible, they should have changed the song around to avoid this.

    A Little Luck is where the wheels start to fall off the bus. Interesting to hear Dave playing with the horns, but the song just does nothing for me. Again though, the horns make me believe that this is really where Dave's tastes are, not in hard rock like Unchained etc.

    Cheatin' Heart Cafe is shit. Travis Tritt badly needs to cut that fuckin' hair, but I've got nothing against him musically. It's just not a very good song. Many of the lyrics sound like they were trying to hard to fit them into the space alloted. BTW, I have an interview with Dave from 1991 where he uses the 'standing in line at McDonalds' line. [img]smile.gif[/img]

    Hey You Never Know just doesn't work for me either. I like the 'ahh' female backup singing though.

    No Big 'Ting is cool enough once you get past the stupid intro. Again, they lyrics seem like he's trying to hard to fit too many words in.

    You're Breathin' is a great song, I really like this one.

    Your Filthy Little Mouth is a good, simple song with some great Dave lyrics.

    Land's Edge is a song that I really loved at the time of the Hits album DLR released. But I've sinced tired of it somewhat. Should have played it a bit slower, and with the bass jacked up.

    Night Life is fuckin' amazing. THIS is the type of material that Dave should be doing. I'm tired of the 'fuck yer girlfriend' shit, this type of bluesy music is where Dave should be hanging his hat. A great song period, and Dave sells it damn well.

    Sunburn is a cool song. Reminds me a lot of a song like Coconut Grove or the later Black Sand. Again, this is the type of material Dave really shines on, not the fast paced rock stuff.

    If you're a Dave fan, it's an album worth tracking down.

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    Personally I think DLR found himself a little lost after ALAE, then saw the grunge/nirvana bus pull up and everything 80's get spat on.

    So he found himself deliberately producing a very diverse album, in the hope that maybe he would find a sucessful road to continue down. Kinda a scattergun approach. Unfortunately he didnt score a hit here, and was left to flounder somewhat.

    ANyways, I dont mind the album, the first 3 songs are pretty strong, and it picks us steam again towards the end, as everyone else has pointed out, its the middle parts of the album which leaves it lacking a little
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    It took me a listen or two until the album grew on me.

    But now I can really enjoy it. It's kinda album to sit back and relax for me, ya know.

    Nothing bad about trying out different styles now and then... as long as you don't sell out.

    I guess with that album it's the same as for example with Bruce Dickinson's Skunkworks project. That one's a major kick ass album too. Yet it sold bad and hardly got any nice critics.

    But as time goes by more and more people who listened to it start to like it. Don't ask me why that's how it is... sometimes confuses me too.
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    Originally posted by billy007:
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    "Everybody's Got The Monkey" - I don't like monkeys, but again, this song is a nice little rocker.

    This song aint about Planet of the Apes - It's about drug habits.

    Anyway - I like this album - but I don't LOVE it - I LOVE everything else he has done solo and VH. If there were a few more songs like 'BigTrain' - It woulda been a classic!

    I think Mississippii Power should've been on there as well - better than most of the songs on the disc.

    Songs like 'A Little Luck', 'Cheatin' Heart...', 'You're Breathin it', and 'Lands Edge', do nothing at all for me - but I'm happy with everything else on the album.

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    As for why it gets no respect, well it came out in '94 - Grunge was king, and Dave was seen as TOO '80's to survive - how the likes of bon jovi, def leppard AND van hagar survived and ave didn't - I'll never know!!!!

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    An end of era too this disc represented - new haircut/image, no 'guitar-hero' songs, Reprise Records, no Pete Angelus - no Picasso Bros., no Diamond Dave directed video - Wayne Isham directed 'She's My Machine - cutting edge music video director MY ASS!!!!! - a very forgettable video - when has that term EVER been used about a David Lee Roth video???

    I recently got some boots of DLR at Montreal and Detroit '86, Florida '91 and Chaicago '94 - And I'm tellin ya it's fuckin sad to see the difference in '94 - the other gigs are at major arena's with sold-out screaming fans - BIG production - Classic arena rock.

    The '94 gig? - he's playing a club - and a very small one too - the drummer is practically on top of him, he has NO ROOM AT ALL!!! on the stage - which means no acrobatics (although he was trying to kinda get away from that sorta thing in the mid-90's). The band aren't bad - but they aren't baaad either, know what I mean.

    And then half-way thru some guy throws something at him - and later in the show he is heckled again - and between songs you can hear some drunk guy yelling for 'Yankee Rose' repeatedly - it's all very sad - he must've been thinking - "what did I do to deserve THIS!!!!"

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    I respect it.

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    YFLM is pretty good. My favorites from that album are She's My Machine, Experience, You're Breathin' It, Your Filthy Little Mouth, and Sunburn. I agree with Glenn that this album showed a lot about Dave's true personality.

    Unfortunately this is the reason that it didn't get much respect. It wasn't as "hard" as the other DLR solo albums and people were turned off by it.

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    Originally posted by Lou:

    Unfortunately this is the reason that it didn't get much respect. It wasn't as "hard" as the other DLR solo albums and people were turned off by it.
    Yeah, it wasn'ta hard rock album. Personally I love that album, been playing it a lot recently - but then I have the original version of Crablouse so my tastes are pretty weird .
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    The album blows, in my opinion. It's the only Roth solo album that I don't like at all. I liked a few of the tunes at first, but they don't have any staying power. DLR Band was decent, but for me, Dave's last really good effort was ALAE (which may be my favorite -- really close to EEAS, anyways!).

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    Because it sucks?? [img]tongue.gif[/img] Easily the worst DLR solo album. "She's My Machine" is about the only decent track on it and it's VERY suspect. Terry Kilgore's guitar work was pretty generic and....well...boring.
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    I like YFLM, although it is not one of my favorite Dave solo outings.

    Personally, I think it may have been one of Dave's finest efforts, lyrically. The biggest problem I had with the album was Terry Kilgore's playing. After Van Halen, Vai and Becker, Terry was a serious drop in talent.

    In my opinion, Dave's solo efforts have gotten lost for no apparent reason. I thought EEAS was much better than 5150, Skyscraper and OU812 equally mediocre, and ALAE comparable to or better than FUCK.

    Personally, I blame Dave and management. I think Big Ed could not effectively manage an unbrella stand in a hurricance. Without Picasso Pete, Dave floundered.

 

 

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