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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    Because Mike wanted Sam to be part of the tribute. Doesn't make sense that he's ok for Mike to come back for a reunion/farewell but not a tribute show.

    He didn't want Sam involved.
    I don't think Mike made demands - there's no record of that. But they probably anticipated that he might. With their thinking always going towards the negative side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    I don't think Mike made demands - there's no record of that. But they probably anticipated that he might. With their thinking always going towards the negative side.
    He can't demand it, but he did tell Eddie Trunk that he brought it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Well, let's be honest, to me, Wolf is the very definition of a momma's boy, so him being closer to her brother than to Uncle Al makes sense.
    Even with some of the nuggets she dropped in her books, her family is not dysfunctional. Or at least not more dysfunctional than most families are LOL.

    Ed was close to all of Valeries family and was said to be particularly close to Valerie's mother whereas he referred to his own mother as "Hitler on a bad day". Surely it was meant to be humorous but there is a lot of truth in most humor. Ed was very close to her brothers. If I am not mistaken, Patrick who was the youngest, lived with Ed and Valerie during high school and Ed and Patrick were very close and shared a lot of interests. It was Patrick who came up with the scheme to get Valerie to get them the back stage passes that resulted in Ed and Valerie meeting in the first place. Ed was also close to another brother whose name escapes me, but that brother was a photographer and that photo of the guitar and the egg on the Balance album was his.

    When Eddie was to go to Germany for his last cancer treatment that got cancelled due to covid, it was Patrick who was going to travel with him, I believe.

    The other things to consider are that (1) Wolf is an only child. If he wasn't exceptionally close to his mother he would be a shit head. (2) Ed's father died before Wolf was born and (3) Alex divorced his second wife and the mother of his son when Wolf was in short pants. There is a fracturing of the Van Halen family to be presumed. That makes it hard to get close.

    So if you say that Wolf is closer to his mothers family because he is a momma's boy, you also have to take into account that Ed was extremely close to Valerie's family as well.

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    I'm sorry, but somebody in that Bertinelli family tree is a fruit bat. Val didn't just get it from nowhere.
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    As an only child with a Jewish mother, Iím not a mamaís boy. And I am very close to my mother, but I was always close with both my parents. Now I donít see my mom all the time, but I talk to her every day, we text daily, and we talk about everything. Always have. But my mother would never fight my battles as a grown adult like Val has. Of course I obviously wouldnít let her. Sure there have been times where she has said, ďIíll say somethingĒ
    and Iím like, ďno Iíll handle itĒ and that was the end of it. Clearly Wolf doesnít do that. I realize theyíre celebrities and Iím not, but sheís fucking weird. Sorry.

    Thereís just something about Wolfís relationship with his mom that is very strange. I realize he had a fucked up father who wasnít doing the right thing large parts of his life, but itís still weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    My understanding of the events was that DLR wanted Mike, and that Al wasn't sold on the idea, therefore they brought in Newsted.
    Not having Mikey as part of a VH reunion when Mikey still walks the earth is akin to asking for instant coffee when there is a Italian barista ready to make you a cappuccino
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    I'm a momma's boy and proud. There were no men in my life, so there's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 47 View Post
    I'm a momma's boy, became a momma's man. I miss that tough old broad... The Tank.
    I like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    I'm a momma's boy and proud. There were no men in my life, so there's that.
    Chris, I think you need to define what that means. Do you mean that you had a close relationship with your mother? Do you mean you let your mother fight your battles for you? Iím pretty confident itís not the latter.

    To me a mamaís boy is somebody that lets his mother control his life and what he does with it. And I donít believe for a second that your mother told you what to do with with your life. I just believe you were close to your mother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Chris, I think you need to define what that means. Do you mean that you had a close relationship with your mother? Do you mean youíll let your mother fight your battles for you? Iím pretty confident itís not the latter.
    Close.

    It was me and her through thick and thin. Everybody abandoned her. I stayed behind. My mother never remarried. Never had a boyfriend. Never brought men into our home. She taught me how to be a man.

    Anyway, I'm getting choked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    As an only child with a Jewish mother, I’m not a mama’s boy. And I am very close to my mother, but I was always close with both my parents. Now I don’t see my mom all the time, but I talk to her every day, we text daily, and we talk about everything. Always have. But my mother would never fight my battles as a grown adult like Val has. Of course I obviously wouldn’t let her. Sure there have been times where she has said, “I’ll say something”
    and I’m like, “no I’ll handle it” and that was the end of it. Clearly Wolf doesn’t do that. I realize they’re celebrities and I’m not, but she’s fucking weird. Sorry.

    There’s just something about Wolf’s relationship with his mom that is very strange. I realize he had a fucked up father who wasn’t doing the right thing large parts of his life, but it’s still weird.
    Uncle Pat is always quick to run to his defense as well.

    I get it, but Wolf is no longer a kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Uncle Pat is always quick to run to his defense as well.

    I get it, but Wolf is no longer a kid.
    Oh yeah, I forgot about him. Yeah that family is weird. I donít care what anybody says. Theyíre overly protective of a 33-year old man. Itís not fucking normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    To me a mamaís boy is somebody that lets his mother control his life and what he does with it. And I donít believe for a second that your mother told you what to do with with your life. I just believe you were close to your mother.
    Agree.

    To make matters worse, WVH is a multi millionaire, and his mom is out on social media going crazy.

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    There was a book, years ago, that said that everything gets decided before 7 years old. I don't know if that's true, but in Wolfie's case, that would be 1998-1999. During that time, VH was still an active band, doing the album/tour cycle. Which means that during those years, he spent way more time with his mom. I imagine most of us had dads with 9 to 5 jobs, so we saw mom and dad pretty much equally. It wasn't the case for Wolf. If you add to this the addiction issues, I think time wise, he spent a lot more time with his mother.
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