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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    No, Ray Danniels destroyed Van Halen. I donít subscribe to any other belief. Sorry.

    Had Ed Leffler not died, Sammy would never have been kicked out of
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    I donít know about his dynamic with Rush. Iím not a Rush fan, so I donít really care. But I know what he did to Van Halen.
    Guys in the band have to own their own actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    No, Ray Danniels destroyed Van Halen. I donít subscribe to any other belief. Sorry.

    Had Ed Leffler not died, Sammy would never have been kicked out of
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    I donít know about his dynamic with Rush. Iím not a Rush fan, so I donít really care. But I know what he did to Van Halen.
    I do agree that with Leffler, Sammy would've stayed in the band. RD couldn't or wouldn't stop them from firing Sammy. But Ed & Al are still responsible for what happened, it was their decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Ed was really poisoned in the end by Ray Danniels, who completely destroyed the band. Ed was already clearly bitter about having to pay Mike and that fucking asshole just fueled more resentment and paranoia in the brothers. I really do blame that piece of shit for the end of Van Halen with Sam. And frankly, the end of Van Halen being Van Halen.

    And I think by mid Ď96, Ed really started to fall off the wagon again. Itís like he had that moment of clarity and sobriety during the Balance era, and then right after that, he just lost his mind, and never recovered for like a decade.

    Look at how bad he looked around the time that the Dave reunion thing happened. He just didnít look right. And when Gary was in the band, he didnít look good then either. His hair didnít look good, it was all stringy. His face didnít look good. He just looked skinny, gaunt and strung out. And then it was all downhill. You could tell he was really abusing a lot of shit. I remember how weird he acted on the Howard Stern show in Ď98, and that just wasnít normal. Even for Ed, his behavior was truly bizarre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    I do agree that with Leffler, Sammy would've stayed in the band. RD couldn't or wouldn't stop them from firing Sammy. But Ed & Al are still responsible for what happened, it was their decision.
    Ed was already out of his mind by then. And Alex is an enabler.

    Ray Danniels took advantage of both situations.

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    13:40 on.... Eddie and Stuttering John lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJC View Post


    13:40 on.... Eddie and Stuttering John lol
    Yeah, thereís no way Iím listening to that. Ed is so out of his fucking mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Ed was really poisoned in the end by Ray Danniels, who completely destroyed the band. Ed was already clearly bitter about having to pay Mike and that fucking asshole just fueled more resentment and paranoia in the brothers. I really do blame that piece of shit for the end of Van Halen with Sam. And frankly, the end of Van Halen being Van Halen.

    And I think by mid Ď96, Ed really started to fall off the wagon again. Itís like he had that moment of clarity and sobriety during the Balance era, and then right after that, he just lost his mind, and never recovered for like a decade.

    Look at how bad he looked around the time that the Dave reunion thing happened. He just didnít look right. And when Gary was in the band, he didnít look good then either. His hair didnít look good, it was all stringy. His face didnít look good. He just looked skinny, gaunt and strung out. And then it was all downhill. You could tell he was really abusing a lot of shit. I remember how weird he acted on the Howard Stern show in Ď98, and that just wasnít normal. Even for Ed, his behavior was truly bizarre.
    I agree with you regarding RD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJC View Post


    13:40 on.... Eddie and Stuttering John lol
    God this is sad to watch

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Guys in the band have to own their own actions.

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    Yep.

    I will always think that if VH had a good manager in 1985 DLR doesn't leave, and if they had a good manager in 1996 they don't fire Sam.

    But...BUT, it is still the band's band, and in the end it is their fault, they have to own it.
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