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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    Not the start to the series the Leafs wanted.

    Do they exorcise their Bostonian demons this series?

    Who knows, but if they don’t that’s gotta be it for this lineup, right?
    Probably not. When they fail, everyone should be fired

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    The Capitals only got 21 shots on goal the entire game today. When are you down 3-1 heading into the third, and don't get your first shot on goal in the period until over 12 minutes have elapsed, I just don't know what to say.

    Might be a very short series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Probably not. When they fail, everyone should be fired

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    Treliving gets a pass, obviously. I’d even consider giving Keefe a pass because I think he’s a good coach, however I don’t think he survives it.


    But regardless this lineup will have to be shaken UP if they don’t get to, at the very least, the third round this year.

    Matthew’s is your one untouchable, I suppose. The rest of ‘em are fair game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    The Capitals only got 21 shots on goal the entire game today. When are you down 3-1 heading into the third, and don't get your first shot on goal in the period until over 12 minutes have elapsed, I just don't know what to say.

    Might be a very short series.
    Caps are HUGE underdogs going in. They are a very weak 8 seed. This will be a sweep or over in 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    Treliving gets a pass, obviously. I’d even consider giving Keefe a pass because I think he’s a good coach, however I don’t think he survives it.


    But regardless this lineup will have to be shaken UP if they don’t get to, at the very least, the third round this year.

    Matthew’s is your one untouchable, I suppose. The rest of ‘em are fair game.
    Yeah, no way you trade Matthews. Elite goal scorer and now a solid 2-way #1 center. Building block.

    Obviously, the goaltending will be the easiest to change. Samsonov and Jones are likely both gone. They will find a new goalie to pair with Woll.

    Marner and Tavares are both on their last year of their deals in 2024-25. They could be dealt this summer with 1 year to go, but both have NMC, so they would have to agree with the trade......that is hard to say.

    Willie Styles is on a new long term extension deal. Almost impossible to trade. Crazy that he missed game 1, something going on....

    Bertuzzi and Domi are likely gone. Revo could get sent to AHL or bought out.

    On Defense..... Brodie, Edmundson, Giordano and Lyubuskin are all gone. Would be difficult to trade Rielly on his long term deal. McCabe could be dealt.

    Lots of changes coming.

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    Yeah, no way you trade Matthews. Elite goal scorer and now a solid 2-way #1 center. Building block.

    Obviously, the goaltending will be the easiest to change. Samsonov and Jones are likely both gone. They will find a new goalie to pair with Woll.

    Marner and Tavares are both on their last year of their deals in 2024-25. They could be dealt this summer with 1 year to go, but both have NMC, so they would have to agree with the trade......that is hard to say.

    Willie Styles is on a new long term extension deal. Almost impossible to trade. Crazy that he missed game 1, something going on....

    Bertuzzi and Domi are likely gone. Revo could get sent to AHL or bought out.

    On Defense..... Brodie, Edmundson, Giordano and Lyubuskin are all gone. Would be difficult to trade Rielly on his long term deal. McCabe could be dealt.

    Lots of changes coming.
    Matthew’s is past the building block stage, I’d say. He’s nearly a veteran at this point but I know what you mean. He’s a generational goal scorer the likes of which we haven’t seen since Ovi came in the league.

    I will say though, if the Leafs want to go the route of the Raptors in 2018, he could be the guy to go. Fire the coach and trade your best player for a group of assets that maybe will help the team in other ways when it actually means the most.

    Because 69 goals in the regular season is a hell of an accomplishment and feat, but it means sweet dick all if you can’t get out of the first two round consistently. And that’s exactly the issue the Raps had leading up to their chip in 2019. They couldn’t get past the first couple rounds.

    I’d consider trading Matthews for an elite goalie and a package of one or two solid Top 6-defensemen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    Matthew’s is past the building block stage, I’d say. He’s nearly a veteran at this point but I know what you mean. He’s a generational goal scorer the likes of which we haven’t seen since Ovi came in the league.

    I will say though, if the Leafs want to go the route of the Raptors in 2018, he could be the guy to go. Fire the coach and trade your best player for a group of assets that maybe will help the team in other ways when it actually means the most.

    Because 69 goals in the regular season is a hell of an accomplishment and feat, but it means sweet dick all if you can’t get out of the first two round consistently. And that’s exactly the issue the Raps had leading up to their chip in 2019. They couldn’t get past the first couple rounds.

    I’d consider trading Matthews for an elite goalie and a package of one or two solid Top 6-defensemen.


    I know that’s crazy but I’m not sure it’s that crazy.
    Not really a good comp with the Raptors. The Raptors got fuckin Kwahi Leonard (ALL NBA Franchise player)....lol... NOT a group of assets ..... hahaha!!! He was way better than Derozan and what they sent to the Spurs.

    Would be difficult for the Leafs to "Upgrade" on AM34. Even in some crazy Lindros type package.....and that is what it would take!

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicpunk5151 View Post
    Not really a good comp with the Raptors. The Raptors got fuckin Kwahi Leonard (ALL NBA Franchise player)....lol... NOT a group of assets ..... hahaha!!! He was way better than Derozan and what they sent to the Spurs.

    Would be difficult for the Leafs to "Upgrade" on AM34. Even in some crazy Lindros type package.....and that is what it would take!
    Yeah, and AM isn’t prime Lindros so we’re tied for ridiculous comparisons then.

    I feel like they could certainly upgrade from a guy who just scores goals in the regular season that hasn’t done anything to push his team over the hump in the playoffs. He’s not a “get on my back, boys” player.

    Will you ever get full tit-for-tat value at the time of the trade? Probably not.

    But if you win a chip with the players coming back that added a different dimension to the team’s defense and depth, nobody will give a shit.
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    Willie out again for Game 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    Yeah, and AM isn’t prime Lindros so we’re tied for ridiculous comparisons then.

    I feel like they could certainly upgrade from a guy who just scores goals in the regular season that hasn’t done anything to push his team over the hump in the playoffs. He’s not a “get on my back, boys” player.

    Will you ever get full tit-for-tat value at the time of the trade? Probably not.

    But if you win a chip with the players coming back that added a different dimension to the team’s defense and depth, nobody will give a shit.

    AM34 clearly follows this message board...haha.... He said STFU...lol... That was about the sickest rip on the game winning breakaway goal.



    Added 2 assists as well.

    AM34 is a better goal scorer than prime Lindros, but Lindros was a better passer. Lindros was also a one-man WRECKIN CREW, so he gets the edge there.

    If we are just talking scoring and awards... Through their first 8 seasons....

    AM34 - 368 goals - 281 Assists = 649 Points - 1 Hart, 3 Richard and 1 Calder - 2nd round of playoffs (47 playoff points)

    Lindros - 290 goals - 369 Assists = 659 Points - 1 Hart - SC Final appearance (57 playoff points)


    Pretty close. Lindros is in the HOF. AM34 making a good case early.

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    Damn... that is a hell of a save.


    Carter Verhaeghe then wins it in OT.

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