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    Idk anything about a great reset or anything like that.

    I do have this intrinsic suspicion (can't explain why) that there is some no good shit afoot and imo it's more than just we spend too much or debt and its finally catching up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    Idk anything about a great reset or anything like that.

    I do have this intrinsic suspicion (can't explain why) that there is some no good shit afoot and imo it's more than just we spend too much or debt and its finally catching up.
    There is always some no good afoot buddy.

    Debt levels and rising interest rates are the driver of the pain we will soon face though. I've been saying this for years. Covid in a way delayed the inevitable but will make the pain twice as bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    Exactly; if we're having this type of discussion, I need something more than "do your research on such and such;" there's so much fear mongering and hyperbole out there, I am not going to waft through pages of internet drivel, with the hopes of substantiating an assertion that's been made.
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    Then how are you going to make your conclusions? If Mainstream media won't report anything, what choice do you have? ....you're going to land your conclusions on a few knuckleheads on a rock band message forum? Don't be lazy. Go research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Well, pretty big oneS, he’s confusing the WHO Pandemic Treaty—and everything I see says countries have submitted suggestions but there is no draft—with the IHR. And there’s nothing about handing over sovereignty to WHO, nor could they enforce such a thing.

    And I’m not proving a negative, so you’d need to show me how these things are happening.


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    The draft is built by countries submitted suggestions. Suggestions have been submitted. I think that would outline a "draft".
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    Then how are you going to make your conclusions? If Mainstream media won't report anything, what choice do you have? ....you're going to land your conclusions on a few knuckleheads on a rock band message forum? Don't be lazy. Go research.
    I do see your point, and it's valid, but the issue is that there's a lot of hyperbole out there. I would, of course, be willing to consider arguments penned by respected authors, publications, and thinktanks.

    But like I said, there's a lot of junk out there. Problem is, if there is any truth to what some assert, they oftentimes invalidate their argument by making ridiculous assertions. Case in point: It's Mike's neighbor, who said something about Jewish laserbeams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    The draft is built by countries submitted suggestions. Suggestions have been submitted. I think that would outline a "draft".
    I thought it was being signed this weekend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    I do see your point, and it's valid, but the issue is that there's a lot of hyperbole out there. I would, of course, be willing to consider arguments penned by respected authors, publications, and thinktanks.

    But like I said, there's a lot of junk out there. Problem is, if there is any truth to what some assert, they oftentimes invalidate their argument by making ridiculous assertions. Case in point: It's Mike's neighbor, who said something about Jewish laserbeams.
    The issue is some people make up a whole lot of shit and others people are predisposed to believe it. Part of that can be blamed on the media. When you lose the trust of the public as has happened stateside then people start "doing their own research" which sets them up to believe the aforementioned made up shit. That's what is happening here and COVID gave people a bunch of spare time at home and too many of them spent their time going so far down a misinformation rabbit hole that they have now convinced themselves that everyone who doesn't believe their easily disproved garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    I thought it was being signed this weekend?

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    22nd through 29th is what I saw reported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    The issue is some people make up a whole lot of shit and others people are predisposed to believe it. Part of that can be blamed on the media. When you lose the trust of the public as has happened stateside then people start "doing their own research" which sets them up to believe the aforementioned made up shit. That's what is happening here and COVID gave people a bunch of spare time at home and too many of them spent their time going so far down a misinformation rabbit hole that they have now convinced themselves that everyone who doesn't believe their easily disproved garbage.

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    What about the great reset or new world order do you see as a bunch of made up shit exactly? I don't understand why you say that (still)
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    What about the great reset or new world order do you see as a bunch of made up shit exactly? I don't understand why you say that (still)
    The new world order has been talked about happening any day now for pretty much our entire lives. It's the equivalent of preachers who tell you the second coming will have on a specific date. It's bullshit.

    As for the Great Reset, the truth is that like most things in our politically divided world, we couldn't agree on what it even is at this point. Never mind when it's happening. But at it's core in the current right wing fear mongering way, it is happening soon and Biden (in your case) and Trudeau (in mine) are part of the plan. What plan? Depends on you ask. Everything from things that might happen as part of typical public policy (universal basic income) to batshit crazy conspiracy (the removal of all private land ownership claims). When is it happening? Soon. How soon? Can't say, it's a secret. But they are working on it. Who, specifically? Can't really say but it's Klaus Shwabs idea. Isnt he like 85 and will be dead before anything could be implemented? Yeah, but still. It's gonna happen, you just aren't researching. What research specifically you ask? I'm not gonna do your homework.



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    Then how are you going to make your conclusions? If Mainstream media won't report anything, what choice do you have? ....you're going to land your conclusions on a few knuckleheads on a rock band message forum? Don't be lazy. Go research.
    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    The draft is built by countries submitted suggestions. Suggestions have been submitted. I think that would outline a "draft".
    I wouldnít call it that, but letís not quibble about that.

    Respectfully, I looked into it, and quickly found that the thing being signed isnít the thing the great reset people say is being signed. They are connected but they are two different things.

    How deep do I need to go when the one of the most basic things right off the bat isnít actually true?


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    Had someone tell me on Saturday the war in Ukraine isn't real. It's all being staged like the moon landing was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardv View Post
    Had someone tell me on Saturday the war in Ukraine isn't real. It's all being staged like the moon landing was.

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    Was that person living in Russia? WTF?

    This is why conspiracy theorists give themselves a bad name and I think they're all batshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    Then how are you going to make your conclusions? If Mainstream media won't report anything, what choice do you have? ....you're going to land your conclusions on a few knuckleheads on a rock band message forum? Don't be lazy. Go research.
    "Go research." Therein lies a big part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy812 View Post
    Was that person living in Russia? WTF?

    This is why conspiracy theorists give themselves a bad name and I think they're all batshit.
    No she lives in Hanover PA....She told me there's web cams that show no war in cities that have been bombed out. She's batshit but cute lol.
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