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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    Believe what you want. It’s not like you’re not an open border guy , dude.
    “Let’s give people a wait time that isn’t ‘not in your lifetime.’ One way we could do that is have a line to come work here that is separate from a path to citizenship. Then we’d ease the illegal demand at the border” is open borders now.

    Again, you’re fighting straw men, here.


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    You don’t have to believe me. John Stossel, that kooky liberal, has an article talking about how the percentage of foreign born in the US is lower now than in 1915. We’re half the numbers of Switzerland and Australia. And that if you’re an unskilled Mexican without family here the average wait time is 135 years in the legal line.

    I posted somewhere here in the last month the Reason flow chart on legal immigration. Reason is always put on the “right wing” part of the graph when it comes to media bias. It shows several paths to legal residency that can take a year or two to two decades. But it also shows that if you’re unskilled without family, the wait time is “virtually infinity.”

    The vast majority of people trying to cross the southern border illegally are unskilled without family here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    You don’t have to believe me. John Stossel, that kooky liberal, has an article talking about how the percentage of foreign born in the US is lower now than in 1915. We’re half the numbers of Switzerland and Australia. And that if you’re an unskilled Mexican without family here the average wait time is 135 years in the legal line.

    I posted somewhere here in the last month the Reason flow chart on legal immigration. Reason is always put on the “right wing” part of the graph when it comes to media bias. It shows several paths to legal residency that can take a year or two to two decades. But it also shows that if you’re unskilled without family, the wait time is “virtually infinity.”

    The vast majority of people trying to cross the southern border illegally are unskilled without family here.


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    But those aren't immigrants. Those are refugees. And any country in their right mind limits the number of refugees they'll take in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Read what I write, please?

    If you are A) unskilled and B) don’t have family here, the legal line is infinity because there’s 10,000 slots for millions demanding each year.

    You keep turning that into me saying “people can’t come legally” which is not what I have said and never what I have said. Not sure why this gets misconstrued every time I wiote it.

    For the people crossing the border to the south, it’s true for most of them, because they are unskilled and don’t have family here.

    I guess you prefer having an argument against something I’m not saying and have never said? I don’t get it.


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    I’ve read every damn thing you have wrote. And it’s like reading war and peace EVERY TIME you say something on this subject. I love you bro, but it’s hard to keep track. 15 years and all.

    Let me ask you something, do you actually have an objection to people coming over here to start Work construction or do other menial jobs?(not to disparage anyone but you get the gist)


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    “Let’s give people a wait time that isn’t ‘not in your lifetime.’ One way we could do that is have a line to come work here that is separate from a path to citizenship. Then we’d ease the illegal demand at the border” is open borders now.

    Again, you’re fighting straw men, here.


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    So once again, we don’t get a wait time that is acceptable so let’s just cross illegally. You really don’t see the issue here? Whatever the reason, not everyone deserves a green card for just wanting to come here. Sorry to be callous but sometimes you just gotta make the best of what you got.

    Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Peru, and Canada are all destinations they could go that would offer a better life. If someone could pay a coyote to transport them, they could get there. They come here because they know they can get away with it and be taken care of.

    So I ask, what’s the deterrent? And better yet, why the fuck is this the average Americans fiscal responsibility?


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Fuckin’ beautiful. “This county is too polarized and we need to address that. Also, you’re either with us or against us.”

    We do NOT have an open border. I guess the anti-immigrant people need to fight a strawman. People die getting smuggled here every day when they could just cross that open border and we’d throw confetti at them on their red carpet.

    Yeah, I said anti-immigrant. If we are going to deliberately misstate over and over more nuanced arguments as supporting things we don’t support and just say we support what’s happening right now, then fuck it, I can play that game, too, because it gets old.


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    Come here right or don’t come at all. If you are stupid enough to trust the cartel, you get what you get.

    Their plight is not my damn problem. I have no issue with people coming here right. In fact, I encourage it. I met a lovely girl from the Ukraine a few weeks ago who fled.

    But just because we are an awesome place to be doesn’t mean that ANYONE gets the golden ticket. Sorry. If that was the case we’d literally have no room.

    And talk about global warming. Our carbon footprint would be massive.


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    Anerica controls her other border pretty well. I can't get on a plane to vegas tomorrow without clearing US customs before stepping on the plane, without being fully vaxxed, without handing the us government my itinerary, and honestly without looking the wrong way at the US customs office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Anerica controls her other border pretty well. I can't get on a plane to vegas tomorrow without clearing US customs before stepping on the plane, without being fully vaxxed, without handing the us government my itinerary, and honestly without looking the wrong way at the US customs office.

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    Look at a map of the U.S. Look at the border with Canada and compare it with the border of Mexico. Way bigger border right?

    It's all open borders bullshit. All excuses for Mexican cheap labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Anerica controls her other border pretty well. I can't get on a plane to vegas tomorrow without clearing US customs before stepping on the plane, without being fully vaxxed, without handing the us government my itinerary, and honestly without looking the wrong way at the US customs office.

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    No. No it doesn’t. But hey, talking about it is an exercise in futility.

    At least I can get my roof done cheap.

    Thanks ICE.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    No. No it doesn’t. But hey, talking about it is an exercise in futility.

    At least I can get my roof done cheap.

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    Not unless you go direct to the source. The roofing companies pay little to their immigrant workers, still charge the consumer the same to have the work completed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD 5150 View Post
    Not unless you go direct to the source. The roofing companies pay little to their immigrant workers, still charge the consumer the same to have the work completed.
    Bro I get shit at cost. I just redid my moms house with moulding, and not the cheap shit, for 100 bucks.


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    NYC Mayor Eric Adams blasts Texas Gov. Greg Abbott after second bus of migrants arrives: ‘This is horrific’

    August 7, 2022


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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    NYC Mayor Eric Adams blasts Texas Gov. Greg Abbott after second bus of migrants arrives: ‘This is horrific’

    August 7, 2022


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    I love it.

    Keep sending 'em Mr Abbott

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