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[Dave's Dreidel]

DD, I bet those 10,000 North Korean soldiers can't wait to get the fuck out of their own country. At least in Ukraine they will get propely fed!

Oh, I am sure they are going to surrender at their first opportunity. Just not sure why the Fat Man is sending them.

[CaboChris]

Oh, I am sure they are going to surrender at their first opportunity. Just not sure why the Fat Man is sending them.

Because he's probably emptying his prisons and sending psychopaths.

[Little Intruder]

Chris, makes me wonder how many Tony Montana's will be in those 10,000 soldiers?

[Little Intruder]

DD, Lil Kim is getting paid by the world's richest man, Vlad Putin, to send those "soldiers". 10,000 men at $1,000 a pop is alot of cash not to pass up!

[Dave's Dreidel]

DD, Lil Kim is getting paid by the world's richest man, Vlad Putin, to send those "soldiers". 10,000 men at $100,000 a pop is alot of cash not to pass up!

You probably are not wrong.

[Little Intruder]

It would be hilarious if every "soldier" Lil Kim sends surrenders to Ukraine. And he wouldn't care, since they were already stinking up the work prisons anyway.

[bklynboy68]

Germany Rejects Zelensky’s ‘Victory Plan’ for Ukraine: ‘A Country at War Can’t Join NATO’

Oliver JJ Lane 26 Oct 2024


President Zelensky’s proposed ‘victory plan’ openly criticised by a NATO leader for the first time, as the possibility of the country joining the alliance while at war with Russia rejected out-of-hand by the German Chancellor.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz used a television interview to make a surprisingly frank rebuttal to President Volodymyr Zelensky’s ‘Victory Plan’, the document the Ukrainian leader has been flogging around Western capitals, and which was made largely public for the first time last week.

Putting his rejection bluntly, Scholz said: “a country that is at war cannot become a NATO member”.

Zelensky’s Victory Plan, amounting to a condensed shopping list of long-standing Ukrainian asks, makes its key plank an “unconditional invitation right now” by NATO for the country to be admitted as a full member.

While NATO has generally been encouraging to Ukraine through the Russian invasion, with future membership after the war has finished, immediate membership has never been on the cards. Quite apart from other concerns about Ukraine’s fitness to meet NATO’s other standards for membership, the possibility that joining during a war would bring the rest of the alliance irreversibly into the conflict has been articulated.

Nevertheless, while the response to Zelensky’s much-vaunted Victory Plan has been decidedly cool — with one notable exception — his NATO allies haven’t publicly criticised it until now. Scholz broke that cordon, telling channel ZDF talk show Maybrit Illner: “I believe that it is very important to realise that a country that is at war cannot become a NATO member… Everyone knows that, there is no disagreement about it.”

Scholz said even starting membership talks so soon would be incorrect, given “with NATO, the invitation is usually linked to membership pretty quickly”, remarking “That is a process that is not pending now”. He said: “there is currently no need for a new decision”.

The German leader is “very serious” about preventing war between NATO and Russia, he said, stating on these issues “That is something I am very clear about and will not change my position”. And on the question of whether to allow Ukraine to use European long-range bunker-buster missiles; “I will not act rashly”.

These declarations do not mean, however, that NATO will make decisions for Ukraine over its head, he reassured. The German stated NATO members had reaffirmed this point in recent talks in Berlin, stating: “There will be no decision for Ukraine over Ukraine”.

These blunt remarks are not the first time Scholz has spoken out on Ukraine’s NATO membership requests, indeed, he has been one of the most outspoken in the alliance on the question. As reported back in May 2023, Scholz walked out of a G7 meeting in Japan to declare Ukraine couldn’t join NATO even if its members agreed, given — as he claimed — it didn’t meet the alliance’s membership requirements.

For the time being, the German Chancellor had said, the important issues were securing Ukraine’s borders, and agreeing future post-war security guarantees. As for NATO membership: “NATO’s criteria include a whole series of conditions that Ukraine cannot currently meet.” As reported at that time of what those requirements may be:

In 1997, the American State Department laid out a list of five “minimum requirements” for NATO membership candidates, which included “all of Europe’s emerging democracies that share the alliance’s values and are ready to meet the obligations of membership.”

The requirements demand that a prospective candidate upholds democracy, including “tolerating diversity”, is “showing progress” towards a developing a market economy, has a military under “firm civilian control”, is a “good neighbour” and respects the sovereignty of other nations, and finally is “working toward compatibility with NATO forces”.

The State Department said that such criteria did not constitute a firm “checklist”, saying that the “key determinant for any invitation to new members is whether their admission to NATO will strengthen the alliance and further the basic objective of NATO enlargement, which is to increase security and stability across Europe.”


Ukraine faces similar problems in its requests to join the European Union, which have been voiced more frequently since Russia’s invasion. New EU states have to meet the Copenhagen Criteria, requirements that include “stability of institutions”, “a functioning market economy”, the ability to uphold EU law, and protections for democracy, human rights, and minorities. As reported in September 2023 on these questions:


Many of these may be difficult to achieve during a major war, where to supposedly further the undeniably important goal of defeating the Russian invasion and occupation elections have been suspended, opposition political parties outlawed, military-age males banned from foreign travel, and corruption issues persist.

Cutting through talk of Ukraine joining the European Union despite these issues as a simple matter of obeying the “call of history” and ignoring the Union’s own rules, Hungarian leader Viktor Orbán said “very difficult questions” had to be asked.

Speaking to Hungarian radio this week, Reuters reports, the prime minister said: “We cannot avoid the question – when during the autumn we will have negotiations in Brussels about the future of Ukraine – whether we can actually seriously consider membership for a country, to start accession talks with a country that is at war.”

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/202...ant-join-nato/

[Dave's Dreidel]

It would be hilarious if every "soldier" Lil Kim sends surrenders to Ukraine. And he wouldn't care, since they were already stinking up the work prisons anyway.

They are basically under threat that if they surrender to the Ukraine and seek asylum it will have serious repercussions to their families back in North Korea.

Not unexpected.

[The Rover]

A Chinese envoy on Thursday called on the United States not to obstruct peace efforts in the Ukraine crisis, as U.S.-led arms transfers to Kyiv continue.

Geng Shuang, China's deputy permanent representative to the United Nations, made the remarks at a UN Security Council meeting, where UN Undersecretary-General for Disarmament Affairs Izumi Nakamitsu noted that the Ukrainian armed forces continue to receive arms transfers and other forms of military support, including heavy conventional weapons. Nakamitsu expressed concern over the use and transfer of cluster munitions, highlighting their indiscriminate nature and potential for widespread pollution.

[Dave's Dreidel]

And China's economic lifeline to Russia hasn't obstructed peace efforts?

China can go fuck themselves.

[The Rover]

Russia open to hearing Trump’s proposals for ending the war, an official says

https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...c01a6e9d79142f

[Scott]

Not sure if this is true or not…but supposedly those 10,000 North Korean solders have been given unlocked phones as a primary communication tool. For the first time in their lives, they have access to a real internet…. In no short order, the found porn and have been, uhh, distracted…this is causing issues��

[ziggysmalls]

I hope they watch Team America

[bklynboy68]

Trump Speaks With German Leader Scholz About Ending Ukraine War to ‘Return Peace in Europe’

11 Nov 2024



President Elect Donald J. Trump spoke with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz with the aim of restoring peace to the European continent and bringing about an end to the war in Ukraine.

With over two months left before being inaugurated as president again, Mr Trump has already assumed the role of peacemaker, embarking upon unofficial diplomatic talks with the principal players involved in the first major war in Europe since the Second World War, including with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Sunday evening, the Welt newspaper reports.

Government spokesman Steffen Hebestreit said the two leaders “agreed to work together towards a return to peace in Europe”. Berlin also vowed to “continue the decades-long successful cooperation between the governments of both countries.”

Besides Ukraine itself, Germany has been one of the largest losers of the war, with a cut-off of energy supplies from Russia following the invasion and the subsequent sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines severely hampering the economy of Europe’s powerhouse.

During his first presidency, Mr Trump frequently criticized Germany’s reliance on Moscow for its energy while expecting the American taxpayer to subsidise its protection against Russia’s military threat.

German diplomats openly laughed at the then-president’s warnings of over-dependence on authoritarian regimes such as Russia. Yet, failing to heed Trump’s message left Berlin and much of Europe flat-footed by the February 2022 invasion.

The fallout of the failure continues to this day, with Chancellor Sholz’s coalition government collapsing this week in large part due to the economy, budgetary issues, and the victory of Donald Trump, who is expected to relaunch efforts to rebalance the trading relationship between the United States and Europe.

The collapse of the “traffic light” government in Berlin means that Scholz will have to govern from a minority position in the Bundestag until elections are held next year. With his leftist Social Democrat Party (SPD) trailing in the polls by double digits, Scholz will likely replaced by March at the latest with a new chancellor.

Similarly, French President Emmanuel Macron’s power has been severely undercut over the past few years, with embarrassing defeats in both the European Parliament and French legislative elections. This will likely mean that neither Berlin nor Paris will be in a position to meaningfully push back against Trump’s plans to broker a peace deal in Ukraine over the next few months.

With both of Europe’s main economic powers facing budget issues, it is also unlikely that there would be much of an appetite to continue funding Kyiv’s war effort without American cash.

Meanwhile, in addition to speaking with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Chancellor Scholz, the president-elect reportedly spoke with Vladimir Putin this week. According to the Washington Post, Trump urged the Russian leader not to escalate the war while hinting at potential repercussions from the significant U.S. military presence in Europe. The Kremlin has denied the call took place.

The Wall Street Journal reported that Trump’s peace plan currently calls for freezing the conflict lines and ceding the Russian-occupied territory of Ukraine to Moscow. The plan also calls for an 800-mile demilitarized zone that would be policed by a yet unnamed third-party country.

The reported deal would also require Ukraine to forsake seeking membership in NATO for at least 20 years. In exchange, Washington would continue to supply Ukraine with arms to act as a deterrent against future aggression from Russia.





https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...abei-ging.html
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Union-ba...plans-008655c0

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/202...ace-in-europe/

[bklynboy68]

Zelensky says Trump presidency means quicker end to war

16 Nov 2024


Nov. 16 (UPI) — The war in Ukraine and Russia will end sooner when Donald Trump becomes president, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said.

On Friday, Zelensky told Ukrainian public broadcasting radio station Suspilne the Trump administration, which takes over Jan. 20, will place an importance on ending the war that began when Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022.

“This is their approach, their promise to their society,” Zelensky told Suspilne, “and it is also very important to them.”

Ukrainian officials “must do everything to ensure that the war ends next year through diplomatic means,” Zelensky added.

Trump has said Russia never would have invaded Ukraine if he were president at the time, and in July said he could end the war quickly without saying how he would do that.

Trump has advocated for “peace through strength,” which was a hallmark of his first administration.

Zelenksy on Friday said a return to that approach will end the war faster than it would under President Joe Biden’s administration.

“I appreciate President Trump’s commitment to ‘peace through strength’ approach in global affairs,” Zelensky said in a post on X on Nov. 6.

“This is exactly the principle that can practically bring just peace in Ukraine closer,” Zelensky said. “I am hopeful that we will put it into action together.”

Zelensky said a post-election phone conversation with Trump was “constructive” and led him to believe the incoming Trump administration and Zelensky’s administration in Ukraine are unified in their respective positions regarding the war in Ukraine and Russia.

Trump has said he wants to end the war and its reliance on military aid from the United States to Ukraine, such as the recent $61billion military aid package to Ukraine that the House of Representatives approved earlier in 2024.

The United States is the largest supplier of military aid to Ukraine and delivered or agreed to deliver $55.5 billion in arms from February 2022 through June 2024, according to Germany’s Kiel Institute for the World Economy.

North Korea recently sent 10,000 soldiers to help Russia defeat Ukraine after Russia suffered an average daily loss of 1,250 troops.




https://www.breitbart.com/news/zelen...er-end-to-war/