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    I’ve always liked Slash, saw G&R this year in September, they blew me away especially Slash

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    Any list that has Ed 70th should not be taken seriously.

    Any list that doesn’t at least have Ed in the Top 10 of greatest guitar players ever should not be taken seriously.

    That being said I’m fine with him being #8 behind guys like Berry, Clapton, BB King, Hendrix, Page, Beck,...even Billy Gibbons because without them the music Ed and VH played (and pretty much every other rock band) wouldn’t have existed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AJW View Post
    Except for Clapton.

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    Clapton has already admitted he was jealous of Ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Work'in Hard View Post
    Clapton has already admitted he was jealous of Ed
    When and in what publication?
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    I swear I think RS just threw darts at a board for that list..Vernon Reid ahead of Eddie
    Dealing with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJW View Post
    Slash knows the deal. I have a lot of friends that are huge Page, Duane Allman and Johnny Winter fans. They laugh whenever I bring up Ed. It's like they think he is a one trick pony or something.

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    Edward is in a class by himself.

    Whereas you can compare the styles of Page, Blackmore, and Townsend.

    No one comes close to playing like Eddie. No one.
    R.I.P. Edward Lodewijk Van Halen ~~ The Einstein of Rock Guitar ~~

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    For those who mentioned that Ed doesn't get the respect he deserves from other guitarists, I'd like to post this essay written by the great Warren Haynes. For those that don't know him, Warren is a fantastic guitarist and singer and songwriter who has played with too many other guitarist to even list in this thread. Suffice it to say, Warren knows talent when he sees and hears it.

    I thought this essay, written shortly after Ed's passing, explains brilliantly the impact EVH had on other musicians and how his talent and uniqueness affected the world of rock guitar and how he too often gets lumped into the crappy knock off shit players of the hair ban era:

    "Oct. 6, 2020 10:45 PM
    Warren Haynes
    RIP Eddie Van Halen
    There are a handful of people with any musical instrument that we can credit with actually changing the course of the instrument. Obviously Charlie Parker changed the alto saxophone. Coltrane changed the tenor saxophone. Jaco Pastorius changed the electric bass. John Bonham changed the world of rock drumming. I could go on but you get the point. It’s an amazing feat for any artist to have that kind of impact and influence on any instrument…..But let’s talk about the electric guitar.

    The advent of the electric guitar changed music, arguably, more than the the advent of any other instrument. The endless combinations of sounds and techniques allowed everyone to seek their own voice which opened up a whole new world of musical expression and possibilities. Maybe I’m biased but in my opinion the electric guitar saved modern music. So when we’re talking about a small pantheon of people who changed the electric guitar that’s a major feat. Monumental!

    I still remember the first time I heard Van Halen. It was at a party in Asheville, my hometown. The first VH album had just come out and people were raving about the music and about Eddie’s guitar playing in particular. Never ready to add someone new to my list of who I consider to be great guitarists, I was a bit resistant but ready to give it a chance. At first listen, I can admit now, I was quite impressed but still not ready to give in to the hype. It was obvious that what he was doing was exceptional but he was using a lot of distortion so I wasn’t convinced that he was really pulling it off in a technical sense…. until I heard Eruption. Pretty damn precise! That’s when it hit me. It was a new day in Rock ’n’ Roll. It was a new day in electric guitar playing. Then later when I heard Spanish Fly (from VH2) GOD DAMN!!! He can play that shit on acoustic guitar.

    Fast forward. No matter what your tastes, especially if you’re of a certain age, maybe VH’s music was not your thing but you had to admit it was the real deal! I personally never looked at EVH as being a major influence on my own playing as my style was fairly developed by the time I discovered his music but I was always a big fan of his virtuosity. Also I should point out that, as is the case with the emergence of any highly innovative, groundbreaking new music or new musician, it would soon follow that the airwaves would become inundated with a gazillion copycats, most of which paled in comparison to the trendsetter.

    This has happened in virtually every moment in history where someone changed the course of a genre or where someone changed the course of an instrument. It has also happened historically with songwriting. When someone comes along with a fresh innovative approach to writing songs suddenly copycats appear out of the woodwork. That’s the way it was with Van Halen, both with Eddie’s playing and with the music itself. This inundation left a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of avid music fans, myself included, but again Eddie was the catharsis for change- not to be blamed for what followed- and VH was the real deal.

    I only got to see Van Halen, the band, perform twice- once in the early 80’s in Asheville and once a few years ago when they reformed the original band. All four members of Gov’t Mule happened to be in LA at the time and we were invited to the Forum to see what they called a “friends and family” dress rehearsal show. Being there watching Van Halen in a 20,000 seat arena with only 700 lucky attendees was quite an experience. Eddie played brilliantly. The whole band sounded great, as they did when I first saw them several decades earlier. It was something I'll always remember.

    I never knew Eddie- never had the opportunity to meet him- but as someone who has studied music since I first got the “bug” as a kid I am compelled to say that the loss of Eddie Van Halen today is monumental! The list of those who changed the trajectory of the electric guitar is a short one and many arguments can be made that I am leaving some out (which I don’t doubt) but in that regard Eddie is joined by the likes of Charlie Christian, Les Paul, and Jimi Hendrix and very few others. Eddie changed the electric guitar. Eddie changed Rock ’n’ Roll. Rock ’n’ Roll changed the world. Any questions?- WH"
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    Kurt Cobain at #12? Yeah, I'm sure he is up in heaven right now giving guitar lessons to Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhoads.
    He shouldn't even be in the Top 100. Disgraceful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chain View Post
    For those who mentioned that Ed doesn't get the respect he deserves from other guitarists, I'd like to post this essay written by the great Warren Haynes. For those that don't know him, Warren is a fantastic guitarist and singer and songwriter who has played with too many other guitarist to even list in this thread. Suffice it to say, Warren knows talent when he sees and hears it.

    I thought this essay, written shortly after Ed's passing, explains brilliantly the impact EVH had on other musicians and how his talent and uniqueness affected the world of rock guitar and how he too often gets lumped into the crappy knock off shit players of the hair ban era:

    "Oct. 6, 2020 10:45 PM
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    RIP Eddie Van Halen
    There are a handful of people with any musical instrument that we can credit with actually changing the course of the instrument. Obviously Charlie Parker changed the alto saxophone. Coltrane changed the tenor saxophone. Jaco Pastorius changed the electric bass. John Bonham changed the world of rock drumming. I could go on but you get the point. It’s an amazing feat for any artist to have that kind of impact and influence on any instrument…..But let’s talk about the electric guitar.

    The advent of the electric guitar changed music, arguably, more than the the advent of any other instrument. The endless combinations of sounds and techniques allowed everyone to seek their own voice which opened up a whole new world of musical expression and possibilities. Maybe I’m biased but in my opinion the electric guitar saved modern music. So when we’re talking about a small pantheon of people who changed the electric guitar that’s a major feat. Monumental!

    I still remember the first time I heard Van Halen. It was at a party in Asheville, my hometown. The first VH album had just come out and people were raving about the music and about Eddie’s guitar playing in particular. Never ready to add someone new to my list of who I consider to be great guitarists, I was a bit resistant but ready to give it a chance. At first listen, I can admit now, I was quite impressed but still not ready to give in to the hype. It was obvious that what he was doing was exceptional but he was using a lot of distortion so I wasn’t convinced that he was really pulling it off in a technical sense…. until I heard Eruption. Pretty damn precise! That’s when it hit me. It was a new day in Rock ’n’ Roll. It was a new day in electric guitar playing. Then later when I heard Spanish Fly (from VH2) GOD DAMN!!! He can play that shit on acoustic guitar.

    Fast forward. No matter what your tastes, especially if you’re of a certain age, maybe VH’s music was not your thing but you had to admit it was the real deal! I personally never looked at EVH as being a major influence on my own playing as my style was fairly developed by the time I discovered his music but I was always a big fan of his virtuosity. Also I should point out that, as is the case with the emergence of any highly innovative, groundbreaking new music or new musician, it would soon follow that the airwaves would become inundated with a gazillion copycats, most of which paled in comparison to the trendsetter.

    This has happened in virtually every moment in history where someone changed the course of a genre or where someone changed the course of an instrument. It has also happened historically with songwriting. When someone comes along with a fresh innovative approach to writing songs suddenly copycats appear out of the woodwork. That’s the way it was with Van Halen, both with Eddie’s playing and with the music itself. This inundation left a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of avid music fans, myself included, but again Eddie was the catharsis for change- not to be blamed for what followed- and VH was the real deal.

    I only got to see Van Halen, the band, perform twice- once in the early 80’s in Asheville and once a few years ago when they reformed the original band. All four members of Gov’t Mule happened to be in LA at the time and we were invited to the Forum to see what they called a “friends and family” dress rehearsal show. Being there watching Van Halen in a 20,000 seat arena with only 700 lucky attendees was quite an experience. Eddie played brilliantly. The whole band sounded great, as they did when I first saw them several decades earlier. It was something I'll always remember.

    I never knew Eddie- never had the opportunity to meet him- but as someone who has studied music since I first got the “bug” as a kid I am compelled to say that the loss of Eddie Van Halen today is monumental! The list of those who changed the trajectory of the electric guitar is a short one and many arguments can be made that I am leaving some out (which I don’t doubt) but in that regard Eddie is joined by the likes of Charlie Christian, Les Paul, and Jimi Hendrix and very few others. Eddie changed the electric guitar. Eddie changed Rock ’n’ Roll. Rock ’n’ Roll changed the world. Any questions?- WH"
    Wow! BIG praise coming from an Allman Brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    Wow! BIG praise coming from an Allman Brother.
    Absolutely.....And Warren himself is far, far more than just his years playing with the ABB. Between his own band, Gov't Mule, and his participation in a few different incarnations of The Dead, and his own solo projects, the man has graced the stage with a list of greats I dare say very few other players could match. Just the guest musicians who jumped up on stage with the ABB at their famous Beacon shows over many years is a list that would blow your mind.....One such guitarist, by the way, is the much maligned Eric Clapton.

    Toss in people who have jammed with Gov't Mule, and your talking the best of the best in terms of guitar players.

    Warren's also a prolific songwriter who has published well over 400 original songs, his first big one a huge hit for Garth Brooks that allowed Warren the freedom to never doing a gig he didn't truly relish. Seriously, the man is an American treasure in my opinion.

    So, say what you will about some musicians not getting EVH, but when Warren Haynes speaks up about the brilliance of Eddie, it's gospel in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chain View Post
    Absolutely.....And Warren himself is far, far more than just his years playing with the ABB. Between his own band, Gov't Mule, and his participation in a few different incarnations of The Dead, and his own solo projects, the man has graced the stage with a list of greats I dare say very few other players could match. Just the guest musicians who jumped up on stage with the ABB at their famous Beacon shows over many years is a list that would blow your mind.....One such guitarist, by the way, is the much maligned Eric Clapton.

    Toss in people who have jammed with Gov't Mule, and your talking the best of the best in terms of guitar players.

    Warren's also a prolific songwriter who has published well over 400 original songs, his first big one a huge hit for Garth Brooks that allowed Warren the freedom to never doing a gig he didn't truly relish. Seriously, the man is an American treasure in my opinion.

    So, say what you will about some musicians not getting EVH, but when Warren Haynes speaks up about the brilliance of Eddie, it's gospel in my opinion.
    Agree 1000%

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    Oh Fuck. * In my best Ben Kingsley voice*

    Fuck. ( Just watched Backstabbing For Beginners film recently & like the way Ben Kingsley says " Fuck"

    First of all- +1 that admires & loves Warren Haynes. Honestly shocked to see him mentioned here now. Which is what propelled me to comment. Not only Warren Haynes but also Alan Woody ( RIP) very much brought brand new blood into the ABB back in 1996 or so. ( 7 Turns ??)

    WHERE IT ALL BEGAN is THE ABB album that caught my attention at the time & turned me into a big ABB fan.

    Those blistering solos initially thought Dickey Betts laid down later on found out WARREN HANES.

    Warren Haynes & Allen Woody have ABB a new life in the '90's. That is MY ABB. I'm not hung up on Duane Allman I'm of the opinion that DICKEY BETTS is the electric guitar lifeblood of the ABB regardless of the long haired pretty fancy loverboy keyboard player.

    Warren Haynes & Dickey Betts together jamming the fuck out in the '90's was ECSTATIC musical bliss. Far beyond comparisons of previous magnetitudes.

    Warren Haynes was a dynamic integral addition to ABB. He brought life back into the ABB. Warren Haynes IS VERY much on par with both Dickey Betts and Duane Allman

    Warren Haynes. Sensational.

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    High praise from Slash. Such a big honour. Well that outta send Ed over the clouds.

    * Snide sarcasm*

    Now if only Mick Mars or Rikki Rockett would make a public compliment holy cow that would really be a great honour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    ...regardless of the long haired pretty fancy loverboy keyboard player.
    Stay in your lane boy....

 

 

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