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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    It’s also the only song to my knowledge he ever played the stripped Gibson that Steinberger gave to him. With the trans trem and the active pickups.

    I know some think he used the peavy but Ed said it was the stripped Gibson.


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    Yours was an interesting note, so I had to read up on it. For anyone else unfamiliar, here's the guitar's history:

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    Loved the sound of that baby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    Yours was an interesting note, so I had to read up on it. For anyone else unfamiliar, here's the guitar's history:

    https://www.guitarworld.com/news/edd...er-5150-guitar



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    Yeah, I love his tone on MWM, could take a whole album of that tone please.
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    In the running for most underrated VH song. Would have loved to see this live just once. Incredible playing by everyone, wild time changes, amazing riff. Tremendous song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post



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    Appreciate the correction; I couldn't find that Gibson anywhere.

    It'd be something to see EVH playing a Gibson on stage...
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    Ed's tone on Balance was the pinnacle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erupt5150 View Post
    In the running for most underrated VH song. Would have loved to see this live just once. Incredible playing by everyone, wild time changes, amazing riff. Tremendous song.
    Yep. The song probably would've been a much bigger hit if the so called "reunion" with Dave hadn't already been destroyed by Ed and Al by the time it hit the radio. No doubt if a CVH tour had happened they would've played MWM and it wouldve been epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNGLE DRUMMER View Post
    Yep. The song probably would've been a much bigger hit if the so called "reunion" with Dave hadn't already been destroyed by Ed and Al by the time it hit the radio. No doubt if a CVH tour had happened they would've played MWM and it wouldve been epic.
    Wasn't it released the day after Dave's open letter? What a dry fuck in the ass...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFVH5150 View Post
    Wasn't it released the day after Dave's open letter? What a dry fuck in the ass...
    I think so. Pretty close. I just remember the DJs on the radio debuting it saying what an awesome tune it was but that there were rumors Dave was already out and Gary Cherone was possibly in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFVH5150 View Post
    Wasn't it released the day after Dave's open letter? What a dry fuck in the ass...
    I know your answer will pain me, but what letter are you talking about?

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    The timeframe around the MTV event was a cluster; I can still remember walking into my friend's house, assuming that he was playing a cruel joke when he told me: "the band did some new music with Roth, and they're gonna see what happens next..."

    I was floored when I had heard the solo on Cant Get This Stuff No More; I really didn't think that Ed had it in himself to write like that anymore.

    I really don't remember what happened after that - meaning Roth's response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    I know your answer will pain me, but what letter are you talking about?

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    The timeframe around the MTV event was a cluster; I can still remember walking into my friend's house, assuming that he was playing a cruel joke when he told me: "the band did some new music with Roth, and they're gonna see what happens next..."

    I was floored when I had heard the solo on Cant Get This Stuff No More; I really didn't think that Ed had it in himself to write like that anymore.

    I really don't remember what happened after that - meaning Roth's response.
    Here it is:

    October 2, 1996

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    You've probably heard rumors that Van Halen and I will not be consummating our highly publicized reunion. And since neither Edward, Alex, nor Michael have corroborated or denied the gossip, I would like to go on record with the following: Eddie did it.

    It's no secret, nor am I ashamed of my unabashed rapture at the prospect of resurrecting the original Van Halen. A "couple of songs" was all I knew for sure when Edward and I got together three months ago to write them. At that time, the band tip-toed around me sprinkling sentiments like, "this isn't a sure thing, Dave; this doesn't mean anything long term, Dave; we're still auditioning other singers, Dave." I was cool. I was happy. I was in the moment.

    The next thing I knew, the four of us are doing a surprise walk-on at the MTV Awards. I told Edward at that time that I didn't think it was a good idea for the band to go to New York half-cocked; and that I didn't want to imply by our presence that we were "back" if in fact it was just a quickie for old time's sake.

    Well ain't hindsight always 20/20...Had I asked for something in writing, this wouldn't have happened. Had I acknowledged the occasional icy grip in my stomach, maybe this wouldn't have happened. But I didn't. Like I said--rapture. And, I love these guys. Do I trust them? That question never entered my mind.

    Then, a series of events last week led me to discover at about the same time the press did, that the band, along with their manager, had already hired another lead singer, possibly as long as three months ago. I wonder how he felt the night of the MTV Awards. It certainly explains why on that night Edward looked as uncomfortable as a man who just signed a deal with the Devil. I can't think of a reason Edward would lie to me about being considered for the lead singer when he had already hired someone, and then let me appear on MTV under the impression that there was great likelihood that Van Halen and I were reuniting. As I said, I told him in no uncertain terms that I didn't want to do the MTV gig as a band unless we were, in fact, a band.

    And so I apologize to my fans and my supporters, and to MTV. I was an unwitting participant in this deception. It sickens me that the "reunion" as seen on MTV was nothing more than a publicity stunt. If I am guilty of anything, I'm guilty of denial. I wanted to believe it just as much as anyone else. Those who know me know that trickery was never my style.
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    It wasn't officially released as a single until November 20th, but I remember it getting played in advance of the CD being available.

    The album was available on October 22nd, so the whole timeline doesn't really make a lot of sense now that I read through it. But, it's also from Wikipedia, so who knows how accurate that is.
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    Late to the party on this thread, but man, I love this song. The outro to me is the best outro VH ever did. It's majestic in its highs, haunting in its lows, ripping in it's pace, but almost calming in its flow--and sometimes all of that simultaneously.

    It had that awesome, pure VH feel where it almost felt like Ed and Al are trying to outshine Dave while Dave is trying to outshine Ed and Al, and what ends up happening is they create a perfect harmonization of awesome that makes you want to run through a wall.

    This song was also unique to their time with Dave. All the way through 1984 their music was semi-serious at best. This was the first song we heard from them that brought Dave and Ed's new sense of musical maturity together again. From the outside looking in, one would think that would never work. But then again, these guys just create magic together and this song is evidence of it. In a way I shouldn't be surprised. This is the same band that did a jazz tune, a sea shanty, and old blues with aplomb, so why should I have expected anything else? These guys just fucking rock together and always will no matter what they decide to play.
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