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    I bought a 5150 Striped Series, got it last week after 7-8 months on backorder. It looks great, feels great, and sounds great, I love it!

    So today I grab it to play a little after dinner and noticed it was all out of tune. I had noticed previously that the E with the DTuna was tuned in the wrong position, so when I switched the positions it wasn't D. Anyways, so I was mulling over fixing that. I hadn't had a Floyd before this, so I didn't know how to go about doing it but was going to take a look. Then I noticed all the strings were just off, weird. So back to the Dtuna, so when I change it down now (engaged), it's actually doesn't have the clearance it once had and is touching the guitar. Ugh.. I put it in the case, so don't know how overnight it's like this.

    So googling this, and watching a few videos I need to adjust the pins on the Floyd pins down to bring it back level. Is this normal after getting your Floyd and breaking in that you'll need to adjust like this? As I said before, I'm a Floyd newbie, what steps should I take to adjust the pins, and tune properly?

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    Wait what? Pins? Whatchu talkin’ ‘bout Willis? Do you mean the pivot screws?Post pictures so we can understand what you’re talking about here. Sounds to me like you put the guitar in the case, probably left the Floyd arm on and the tension got all screwy. You need to adjust your trem spring tension. Is your Floyd parallel with the body? My guess is no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Wait what? Pins? Whatchu talkin’ ‘bout Willis? Do you mean the pivot screws?Post pictures so we can understand what you’re talking about here. Sounds to me like you put the guitar in the case, probably left the Floyd arm on and the tension got all screwy. You need to adjust your trem spring tension. Is your Floyd parallel with the body? My guess is no.
    Yes, Pivot screws!! No, I didn't leave the floyd arm on it, but I could see that happening. Doesn't look parallel to the body now, the Dtuna is slanted down now, and that's not in the engaged position.

    So, if I have to adjust the springs, do I unlock the strings first, then adjust the strings, then tune, and lock down in that order? Would I need to adjust the pivot screws?



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    Quote Originally Posted by rurbaniak View Post
    Yes, Pivot screws!! No, I didn't leave the floyd arm on it, but I could see that happening. Doesn't look parallel to the body now, the Dtuna is slanted down now, and that's not in the engaged position.

    So, if I have to adjust the springs, do I unlock the strings first, then adjust the strings, then tune, and lock down in that order? Would I need to adjust the pivot screws?

    Try to tune it with the D-Tuna pulled out to a D, and the other 5 strings to pitch. Then, push the D-Tuna in, and fine tune (if needed) to E. This should help.

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    Did they cut the metal spring tang under your low E string screw? I remember I had a similar problem with my Wolfgang MIJ. I ended up buying a new tension plate because I could literally push the D-tuna into the body with ease. I still have to be careful but at least now there is resistance.

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    I am removing my D-Tuna from the Frankie I have when I change the strings. They include a regular string clamp screw in your bag of goodies with the guitar so you can do a D-Tuna delete. I play almost no songs in drop D, and certainly not any songs that require me to quickly move from Drop D to Standard Tuning rapidly enough to necessitate a D-Tuna. For me, it's not worth the range of fine tuning you lose on the E string to keep it on there.
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    Same. Pulled mine off shortly after I got my 5150 striped series. Too much of a hassle trying to tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobozos View Post
    I am removing my D-Tuna from the Frankie I have when I change the strings. They include a regular string clamp screw in your bag of goodies with the guitar so you can do a D-Tuna delete. I play almost no songs in drop D, and certainly not any songs that require me to quickly move from Drop D to Standard Tuning rapidly enough to necessitate a D-Tuna. For me, it's not worth the range of fine tuning you lose on the E string to keep it on there.
    Same. Pulled mine off shortly after I got my 5150 striped series. Too much of a hassle trying to tune.

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    ... the guitar was left in the case for a while and came out not in tune?

    Here are some thoughts/options.

    Did you try unclamping and retuning before doing any major work?

    Remember - a DTUNA will never work right with brand new strings. They have to be used and stretched out abit. Just tune to E, play for a bit, unclamp and retune in the D position, lock and shift the Dtuna to see if the e is correct. (Once you know your strings are stretched - and if you are still having the issue, use the fine tuner on the DTuna)

    What kind of strings are you using? I've found that effects the Dtuna more than one would think. (Brand & Gauge) - & no I don't recommend EVH strings.

    (I'm pretty sure there's an older D Tuna thread with the answers there)

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    I stopped using those dumb D-Tuna’s. I just make sure I leave enough room on the fine-tuning screw to back out to D from E. I still have to check my tuning when I switch to D with the D-Tuna anyway. It’s never perfect. I just think they’re totally unnecessary.
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    Ok, so update on this. I took it into a music store down the street, he was very knowledgeable on Floyd Roses. Anyways, he ended up adjusting the springs and retuning, It took him 1/2 hour of adjusting, tuning, re-adjusting, checking the Dtuna height, etc. So I'm glad I took it in. It wasn't as daunting watching him do it, it just takes some knowledge and patience. And he loved the guitar, "this thing is amazing!" and didn't charge me. Definitely a returning customer now, so I'll plug him, If your in Michigan, Downriver area, check out Mike Careys Music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I stopped using those dumb D-Tuna’s. I just make sure I leave enough room on the fine-tuning screw to back out to D from E. I still have to check my tuning when I switch to D with the D-Tuna anyway. It’s never perfect. I just think they’re totally unnecessary.
    Man, I couldn’t agree more. They look odd as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rurbaniak View Post
    Ok, so update on this. I took it into a music store down the street, he was very knowledgeable on Floyd Roses. Anyways, he ended up adjusting the springs and retuning, It took him 1/2 hour of adjusting, tuning, re-adjusting, checking the Dtuna height, etc. So I'm glad I took it in. It wasn't as daunting watching him do it, it just takes some knowledge and patience. And he loved the guitar, "this thing is amazing!" and didn't charge me. Definitely a returning customer now, so I'll plug him, If your in Michigan, Downriver area, check out Mike Careys Music.
    I told you it was the springs.

    Glad it’s sorted.

    When you leave a guitar in the case and the strings are fairly new and you’re putting tension on them continually for hours and days, it can change everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I stopped using those dumb D-Tuna’s. I just make sure I leave enough room on the fine-tuning screw to back out to D from E. I still have to check my tuning when I switch to D with the D-Tuna anyway. It’s never perfect. I just think they’re totally unnecessary.
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    I'm spoiled. The first one I had worked like a charm & I wrote songs where I'd change the D-Tuna position for changes in character on riffs. Always a neat little trick.

 

 

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