'98 Pat Pend Black Wolf on Reverb for $1100

**RichieD** · 01.07.21, 02:20 PM

Better hurry....Im having a hard time not buying this....right down the road from me too. It's rough but...

https://reverb.com/item/38155474-pea...ing-1998-black

**Brett** · 01.07.21, 02:27 PM

It looks like it’s in pretty rough shape but it’s definitely a great guitar. I have the same exact one. I also don’t like that the bridge pickup was swapped out. I like a JB, but I’d much rather have the original Peavey EVH in there. Those early Wolfgang pickups are awesome.

**ScottyBHarris** · 01.07.21, 03:36 PM

Not VH savvy, I see brown M&Ms in that pic. Lol

**MF5150** · 01.07.21, 06:43 PM

The price is right for the poor condition it's in. That guitar is not in "Good" condition like the seller states on the listing page.

The wear on the body almost looks "relic'd". It doesn't seem natural to me at first glance but it definitely could be natural wear and tear. Also it looks like the guitar might have had a refret as those frets look like they're in pretty damned good condition for a 22 year old guitar that's been well loved and obviously gigged. Super hard to tell though.

**Brett** · 01.07.21, 10:12 PM

Honestly I would stay away from it. If you’re looking to buy a nice old Wolfgang I just don’t think that’s it. If it looks that beat up in the pictures it’ll only look worse in person. And you can’t play the thing, and with something looking like that I would want to play it first. I feel like $1100 is a lot to take a chance on with a guitar looking like that. If it was $500 or something I could see taking a shot at it if I wanted one.

**PrideofPasadena** · 01.07.21, 11:28 PM

Sucks it wasn't treated better. It's dinged to holy hell. Looks like they used a pry bar on the pups.

**rvk5150** · 01.08.21, 02:39 AM

I have to check but I also have the same one....it is either 96 or 98 pat pending with original case and cert; it is my everyday guitar the past few years.

They are worth more?

**Brett** · 01.08.21, 03:29 AM

It can’t be a 96. Would have to be a 97 or 98 there are no 96 Pat Pending models. It’s not that they’re worth more money, it’s just that they’re early models and sometimes they have nicer looking Birdseye necks and people have said they sound better. I don’t know that mine sounds any better than anyone else’s but I do think it has a massive sound to it. Maybe other guys have more detailed info on if there are any real differences but I don’t think it’s anything that major.

**rvk5150** · 01.08.21, 04:28 AM

Thanks Brett....yeah I love my baby; first "real" guitar I ever purchased and at the time first and one of a only a few brand new...saved for almost a year to buy it. During our rough times I had to sell off most of my collection but my wife stopped me from selling this one; one of the many reasons why I love her.

Some pics.

**AFU** · 01.10.21, 08:37 AM

There’s actually a few differences between later PV Wolfs and my Pat. Pending black Wolfgang. I have three and played a bunch including the specials when they came out. My Pat. Pending has a way more beveled edge to the fret board. Way more pronounced. Deeper. Whatever you want to call it. It’s a big difference in feel. It sounds a little different. More like I’d say a Harley vs a crotch rocket that the rest of the PVs sound like. More open growl vs grind. And the Peavey logo is gold leaf. Not good paint. Don’t think I don’t love the PVs. My tobacco burst is still one of my favorite guitars and destroys anything I compare it to(non EVH guitars) in feel, playability, tone and quality.

This morning before I saw this thread I told my wife when I die the black guitar under the bed goes to my daughter don’t sell it. The Pat. Pending Wolf. So that’s why I had to jump in here.

**Brett** · 01.10.21, 10:10 AM

Good to know man I still have my black Pat Pending Standard too. I knew there were some differences but I honestly didn’t know all of them. It is a monster of a guitar and is one of the best-sounding I’ve ever owned. I don’t play it very much anymore except to record around the house, but I used to play it live for years and it was just a monster. I’ve never owned or played another Wolfgang so I didn’t know the feel differences or anything.

**Jedi McFly** · 01.10.21, 11:12 AM

I really need to break my black Patent Pending Wolf out of its case. It’s been a while.

**nobozos** · 01.14.21, 12:06 PM

I owned one just like that, except the birdseye was insane on the neck. I thought it was the best Peavey Wolfgang out of the ones I've owned. The Black ones and the White ones did not have a maple cap on them FYI. The Gold ones did have a maple cap, but that was the only one of the opaque finishes that had a maple Cap. As a result, the guitar does sound slightly different, but I actually preferred the sound of the Black one over my Purple flame top or Tobacco burst Flametop Special.

**Brett** · 01.14.21, 01:36 PM

Yeah the Birdseye on my neck is pretty crazy.

**rvk5150** · 01.15.21, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by nobozos

I owned one just like that, except the birdseye was insane on the neck. I thought it was the best Peavey Wolfgang out of the ones I've owned. The Black ones and the White ones did not have a maple cap on them FYI. The Gold ones did have a maple cap, but that was the only one of the opaque finishes that had a maple Cap. As a result, the guitar does sound slightly different, but I actually preferred the sound of the Black one over my Purple flame top or Tobacco burst Flametop Special.

Cool info that I did not know man....thank you for that.