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    Quote Originally Posted by Olen View Post
    Monk was under a confidentiality agreement that prevented him from writing this type of book until the agreement expired. Since he exited in 1984 and the book was released in 2017, and probably required about 2+ years to write/edit, the confidentiality agreement was probably a 30-year window (speculating) expiring in 2014.
    Ah, yes, I do recall hearing something about that agreement. My point still kinda stands. lol

    It also makes me wonder about the claim that Ed and Al were in Monk's office last year watching old live clips of the band. We can chalk it up to Ed mending fences, but it still seems odd after this book came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    If we all get together and keep saying "there is no way Van Halen does this", they will, just to be contrarian.
    Spite is definitely an underrated quality.

    If they did it to spite us, Id respect and support it.
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    Ok I think that covers everything." Ziggysmalls

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    My opinion is fluid on this, but saying you just want to play music but all the while promoting yourself or consenting to someone else promoting you is an admission that you really want people to hear and pay for what you produce. Nobody goes into entertainment without wanting some sense of validation, recognition, or fame. When you become a public figure, you give up some or a lot of your privacy. People who lament the loss of privacy should have thought about their vanity.
    "To hell with the rules. If it sounds right, then it is." King Edward Lodewijk Van Halen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    "Donny, you're out of your element." W. Sobchak

    Might be my favorite movie
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    "Sammy is fat, Dave is bald, Mike is next in line to be the Pope, Eddie is a drunk, Wolfie is fat, Gary is gay, CVH is VH, Mike is VH, Sammy can outsing Dave on a tequilla hangover, Eddie is a meth head, How Many Say I is the worst VH song ever, Up for Breakfast is a close second, Dave was horrible at radio and everybody hates the assless chaps.
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    Those of you who have been on this ride before, the hottie in the mini will be around shortly with your drinks......." Red

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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1986 View Post
    My opinion is fluid on this, but saying you just want to play music but all the while promoting yourself or consenting to someone else promoting you is an admission that you really want people to hear and pay for what you produce. Nobody goes into entertainment without wanting some sense of validation, recognition, or fame. When you become a public figure, you give up some or a lot of your privacy. People who lament the loss of privacy should have thought about their vanity.
    "Until you walk a mile in another man's moccasins you can't imagine the smell."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy812 View Post
    Ah, yes, I do recall hearing something about that agreement. My point still kinda stands. lol

    It also makes me wonder about the claim that Ed and Al were in Monk's office last year watching old live clips of the band. We can chalk it up to Ed mending fences, but it still seems odd after this book came out.
    That one always struck me as odd. They can mend fences with Noel Monk, but Mike is out of the question?
    If I don't respond to you it means I have you on ignore, which means you are a douchenozzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    That one always struck me as odd. They can mend fences with Noel Monk, but Mike is out of the question?
    Maybe Monk decided to pick up the phone.

    Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    Maybe Monk decided to pick up the phone.

    Just saying.
    No one cut Ed and Al's arms of either though. It's a two way street.
    If I don't respond to you it means I have you on ignore, which means you are a douchenozzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    No one cut Ed and Al's arms of either though. It's a two way street.
    But that's not how it works in their world.

    You're not new to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    But that's not how it works in their world.

    You're not new to this.
    Touche.
    If I don't respond to you it means I have you on ignore, which means you are a douchenozzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    No one cut Ed and Al's arms of either though. It's a two way street.
    I don't think Al had anything to do with Mike not being in Van Halen anymore.
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    Noel was a big part of their early era, climb to the top.

    Regardless, of what kind of manager you think he is, he was there, and i'm sure
    those early bonds are hard to break.

    His book really wasn't that harsh, he was pretty complimentary to Ed, especially.
    To me, it makes sense they wanted to see him one more time.
    Graver, Walking Ed, refugee from CVH & proud tone chaser...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destructo2 View Post
    Thanks DD and dislocatedday. Will not wast my time with his book...
    It's NOT a waste of time, if you love CVH.

    The chapter on the South American leg of the Sheep tour, was worth it alone.

    Again, he was there when it happened.

    I'm not sure how any fan of this band would have no interest in that sort of insight.
    Graver, Walking Ed, refugee from CVH & proud tone chaser...

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    I think everyone always knew that Ed and Al would spend ridiculous amounts of time in the studio working on stuff by themselves.

    I'm sure guys like Templeman, Monk, Mike, Dave, Sam and Donn Landee have a real good idea of how van halen works.

    the guys who I'd love to read a book from is Mike (which I don't think will ever happen) and Donn Landee (which I also don't think will ever happen).

    Al has a right to be upset I guess but I honestly don't think you can rag any of the guys who have written books about their time associated with the band.

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    I agree Monk was a bit harsh towards Al, but it sounded more like Al tried to steal
    his GF at one time, and he carried that resentment.
    Plus, Al was the one who initiated Monk getting fired.

    I thought Ted kinda downplayed Al, as well, in his book.
    He mentions how he thinks Joey Kramer is one of the best drummers in rock, but
    then remembers how annoyed he was with one of Al's fills.

    I can't imagine being that good a drummer, then having your brother, a one in a billion
    freak of nature guitar player, sort of getting all the praise, because he's a genius.

    Can you imagine if Al was in Krokus or Kiss?

    They'd reference him as the "AMAZING drummer in Krokus or Kiss."
    Graver, Walking Ed, refugee from CVH & proud tone chaser...

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