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    And I donít have anything against immigrants. Or people wanting a better life. Just do it right. It takes time but itís less of a hassle.

    Except Argentines. I donít like Argentines.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    Wh could annex Mexico and clean it up. Kinda like a 51-54th state thing.


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    Dave's right. End the drug war, come up with a guest worker program that is separate from the green card line (but that whole mess needs to be fixed, too). Not sure why this is so difficult. They can still vote Democrat and work cheap for the Republicans ;-)

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    I know this will fall on deaf ears but if we are looking to European countries and Canada as the way to do things regarding our health care and economy why not employ their immigration policies? How does Canada, UK, Germany France, Denmark, Norway, etc deal with illegal immigrants? Legal immigration. We are told they do everything better than us, why not their immigration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post
    I know this will fall on deaf ears but if we are looking to European countries and Canada as the way to do things regarding our health care and economy why not employ their immigration policies? How does Canada, UK, Germany France, Denmark, Norway, etc deal with illegal immigrants? Legal immigration. We are told they do everything better than us, why not their immigration?
    Trump basically copy and pasted Canada's immigration policy into his platform and was told it was the most racist policy of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post
    I know this will fall on deaf ears but if we are looking to European countries and Canada as the way to do things regarding our health care and economy why not employ their immigration policies? How does Canada, UK, Germany France, Denmark, Norway, etc deal with illegal immigrants? Legal immigration. We are told they do everything better than us, why not their immigration?
    They don't share a border with Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Trump basically copy and pasted Canada's immigration policy into his platform and was told it was the most racist policy of all time.
    Yeah, try to get into Canada and stay there long term when you aren't wanted. Doesn't happen.

    But Canada is viewed as a post-racial paradise and Americans are Nazi's.
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    You can trace our immigration issues at the southern border back to the Bracero program that ended in the 1950s. The problem was, despite saying, "You half-million people can no longer come here seasonally to do agriculture work," they did it anyway. If you look back at the eras of border crackdowns, they ended up having the opposite of the intended effect. Instead of continuing to come here seasonally, as the odds of getting caught up in border patrolling increased, illegal immigrants ended up just staying in the US permanently instead of migrating seasonally. The one thing that successfully stopped people from coming here? The US economy crashing.

    Despite intent, the actual outcome here doesn't differ much from the drug war. By virtually prohibiting the immigration of "unskilled" people without family already in the US, the cartels have taken over the immigration trade. They smuggle people over the border like they do drugs. And as long as there is a demand in this country and a supply willing to come, they will continue to find ways to get them across the border illegally. If we don't address our archaic immigration laws, this will continue as it is too lucrative for the cartels.

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    I just wish weíd use a drone and kill the cartels. We have the technology. And the Mexican government wonít do it. So get permission and handle them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    I just wish we’d use a drone and kill the cartels. We have the technology. And the Mexican government won’t do it. So get permission and handle them.


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    Take out a cartel, another or something else will take its place. There is a huge demand for drugs. Someone will supply it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy812 View Post
    They don't share a border with Mexico.
    No they don't but there are a lot of impoverished countries in Europe. Maybe not as bad as Mexico but there are a lot of places in Central and Eastern Europe that are not as desirable as lets say Denmark, Germany, or Austria. Look at the Roma. They have been discriminated against longer than there was a United States. They simply just can't go across any border and take up residence as they migrate to lets say Denmark, Sweden, etc. If you think Mexico is bad look up Lunik 9 in Koisce Slovakia. I have a few teammates from Romania and the opening scene of Borat is filmed there. They say outside of the main cities, that's what life is like. They can't simply just start migrating to border countries to their way to the promised land.

    The difference is that they don't have political parties who want their vote. You come in illegally like every other country in this world, you will be deported.

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    Try getting into Australia and staying...good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Try getting into Australia and staying...good luck.
    The funny thing is that America is very good at controlling legal tourists coming into the country. Whenever I fly to the states I need to give everything but a damn blood sample to get in the country (and I'm a Canadian who doesn't have a parking ticket on his record). I remember when I went to Vegas years ago and my mother-in-law was with us, they questioned the poor woman forever. Took her fingerprints, did some eye scan thing. I badly wanted to tell the agent that perhaps spending this much time on the 70+-year-old grandmother flying with her family isn't the best use of his time but I wanted to actually get on the plane.

    America is bordered by a 3rd world country and at some point, you guys will start acting as if you do.

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    We are actually bordering a set of countries run by an international criminal enterprise.
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