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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    The US government should have done much more to help people who lost their jobs and had their businesses impacted during this time. I'm not a big fan of just giving everyone 2,000 as it means people who weren't financially impacted get it but to be honest it's better they do that than they do nothing.
    It's impossible to weed out who needs it and who doesn't and get money to those that need it. Better that people get money they don't need to help people who need it get money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    that's just human nature my friend. If I would have told you 5 years ago that you'd be in the spot you are in now, would you have considered yourself broke? If your pay was doubled tomorrow, 6 months later you'd feel the same way you do now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    It's impossible to weed out who needs it and who doesn't and get money to those that need it. Better that people get money they don't need to help people who need it get money.
    I agree with you. But honestly, it shouldn't be that hard to just claw the money back from people who didn't need it. That's what we did. Anyone who applied got 2k a month for like 7 months or something like that. The revenue agency can worry about it getting it back from people who didn't qualify. Personally, we're lucky. I never stopped working, got no raise and my bonus sucked but all things considered I'm good. Wife never stopped working either. But a lot of people have gotten killed financially by this thing and sadly those least capable of riding out a mess were most likely to be impacted. The US government's reaction to this has been as poor as one would expect it to be.

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    This is so true.


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    I figured that out a long time ago. There's a certain income you need to in order to pay for everything you need and have some extra money put aside. But after that, your happiness doesn't go up with your income. I was interviewing for a promotion years ago (job ended up getting killed so it didn't happen) and I noticed something; every single person above me at work was divorced. My boss, his director, her VP, etc. You quickly realize that maybe an extra 15 grand (or whatever it would have been) really ain't that important. If you gave me an extra 10 grand a year I'd take it but the impact on my life would be almost zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    The US government should have done much more to help people who lost their jobs and had their businesses impacted during this time. I'm not a big fan of just giving everyone 2,000 as it means people who weren't financially impacted get it but to be honest it's better they do that than they do nothing.
    I agree but itís a fine line because more people would have taken advantage of it. Unemployment is a joke in the states.


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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    I agree with you. But honestly, it shouldn't be that hard to just claw the money back from people who didn't need it. That's what we did. Anyone who applied got 2k a month for like 7 months or something like that. The revenue agency can worry about it getting it back from people who didn't qualify. Personally, we're lucky. I never stopped working, got no raise and my bonus sucked but all things considered I'm good. Wife never stopped working either. But a lot of people have gotten killed financially by this thing and sadly those least capable of riding out a mess were most likely to be impacted. The US government's reaction to this has been as poor as one would expect it to be.
    I feel the worst for the average blue collar worker. Middle management and sales can do zoom or Skype or whatever you like. Guys that work the fryer at kfc canít exactly phone in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    I agree but it’s a fine line because more people would have taken advantage of it. Unemployment is a joke in the states.


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    You'd know that better than me, i just think the main role of government on this was to help people who lost their jobs. That shouldn't be that hard for the IRS to figure out qualifications afterward. That said, you also heard so many stories of people getting enhanced unemployment and choosing to not go back to work. I don't know what the answer is to that issue. I haven't been out of work since i got my first job when i was 12 so i'm kind of an outlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    I feel the worst for the average blue collar worker. Middle management and sales can do zoom or Skype or whatever you like. Guys that work the fryer at kfc can’t exactly phone in.


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    yup, me too. We've tried like to hell to make sure we kept supporting all the local places that we did in the past for that reason. I'm lucky, I can work out of my basement, most people don't have that luxury.

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    i wish that was true. would be the perfect ending to his presidency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    yup, me too. We've tried like to hell to make sure we kept supporting all the local places that we did in the past for that reason. I'm lucky, I can work out of my basement, most people don't have that luxury.
    Iíve really been trying mom and pop pizza joints instead of the big ones.


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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    I figured that out a long time ago. There's a certain income you need to in order to pay for everything you need and have some extra money put aside. But after that, your happiness doesn't go up with your income. I was interviewing for a promotion years ago (job ended up getting killed so it didn't happen) and I noticed something; every single person above me at work was divorced. My boss, his director, her VP, etc. You quickly realize that maybe an extra 15 grand (or whatever it would have been) really ain't that important. If you gave me an extra 10 grand a year I'd take it but the impact on my life would be almost zero.
    Couldnít agree more wholeheartedly. Canít take it with you, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    i wish that was true. would be the perfect ending to his presidency.
    It would be just like Trump to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    I’ve really been trying mom and pop pizza joints instead of the big ones.


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    Those are usually the best one's, too. You might end up paying a bit more but the quality is almost always superior.
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