THE BIDEN PRESIDENCY

**It's Mike** · 06.22.22, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by fudd

The issue with left leaning leaders is that they lean left.

Go right or we fight.

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Who was the last good right leaning president you had? Neither side has anything to brag about.

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**edwardv** · 06.22.22, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by It's Mike

Who was the last good right leaning president you had? Neither side has anything to brag about.

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Many would say Reagan but it was Ike. The 50s where fabulous minus Korea.

**NDL** · 06.22.22, 03:20 PM

Howard Dean is 73 years old.

Why hasn't he been asked to run?

**fudd** · 06.22.22, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by It's Mike

Who was the last good right leaning president you had? Neither side has anything to brag about.

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George H.W. Bush.

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**VH1986** · 06.22.22, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by The Rover

Jerry Falwell will come out of the grave to oppose him.

If there is a Hell, then Jerry Falwell is there.

**fudd** · 06.22.22, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by edwardv

Many would say Reagan but it was Ike. The 50s where fabulous minus Korea.

Reagan was great. He wasn’t perfect hut by todays standards he was Jesus Christ himself presidentially speaking.

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**VH1986** · 06.22.22, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by edwardv

Many would say Reagan but it was Ike. The 50s where fabulous minus Korea.

I like Ike, but the 50s weren't fabulous for everyone.

**VH1986** · 06.22.22, 07:13 PM

President Reagan had some blind spots, but I still respect that man.

**It's Mike** · 06.22.22, 07:49 PM

I think Reagan is the right answer. A man who was elected when i was 6 years old. I'm currently 47. That's not good. Over the same period I'd argue the Democrats have provided 1 good president as well. This is a bipartisan shit show. Biden, for as bad as he's been, blends in well.

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**lovemachine97(Version 2)** · 06.22.22, 08:01 PM

Reagan wouldn’t even get the GOP nomination today.

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**NDL** · 06.22.22, 09:03 PM

I actually got choked up when Reagan died.

He was a very rare breed, on so many levels.

While I didn't agree with all of his initiatives, he genuinely loved his Country, and his countrymen.

There's no doubt about that.

**edwardv** · 06.23.22, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by VH1986

I like Ike, but the 50s weren't fabulous for everyone.

I get it 86. But Lincoln an R freed the slaves Jan 1863 and southern D's started Jim Crow and segregation. If you where lucky enough to survive WW2 or Korea a fantastic post war economy with full employment awaited you. Plus supermarkets and home ownership with football on TV.

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**Scott** · 06.23.22, 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2)

Reagan wouldn’t even get the GOP nomination today.

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I've said a few times, that fundamentally, if you ask what a traditional GOP stood for, all people would be GOP....problem is, there hasn't been a strong supporter of their principles in a while - your comment on Regan is a good example of that.

I did like the first Bush.

I don't see any GOP people that would fit the bill right now... a shame, as there are likely lots of people that would do a great job.

**fudd** · 06.23.22, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by VH1986

If there is a Hell, then Jerry Falwell is there.

Nope, he, Elvis and Tupac are working in a Burger King in Des Moines.

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**ziggysmalls** · 06.23.22, 04:58 AM

I think HW was a very good president. He just lied about taxes which hurt him with conservatives. Also ran against the wrong guy, Clinton. He saw the recession, and dealt with it. Made a tough call to help the country. Imagine that? Didn't want to rasie taxes but had to to limit the effects of the recession. It was improving but he lost to a more charasmatic guy. Plus it was year 12 of GOP presidents. Sometimes that happens. Like McCain. Normally he should ahve won. A centrist who was respected on both sides. However he had to deal with the effects of the Great Recession and Bush having 8 years. Obama was like Clinton. Energetic guy where one could see the contrast.

I know Reagan and him couldn't win today but Clinton would be viewed as Joe Manchin today in teh Democratic party. The GOP has shifted but lets not fool ourselves that a Democrat from 1992 is the same as a Democrat ini 2022.

Bill Mahr is considered a centrist in the current Democratic party.

Anyway good old Joe wants to save us 18 cents a gallon by removing a tax. Yeah its something but there is a reason why Obama even thinks this is a joke. Its not a solution. Its a band aid. He has tunnel vision. Medium and Long term solutions are green energy and that is the only option. Short term is releasing strategic reserves or increasing our debt by removing a tax.

Solid leadership