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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    I’m not opposed to everything suggested. But the people that are actually killing people don’t really seem to be the type to really buy firearms legally. As a whole. The crazy nut who shoots up a school is gonna do it with something. Be it a car, a bomb or a gun.

    I do also believe that the minimum age to buy any gun should be 21. That would help.


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    Quick question: up here in Canada (like most Western countries) we do not have these same issues with mass shootings. Yet we do have the same issues confronting our population. Mental health concerns, criminals getting weapons etc. A big difference is that we do have actual gun laws and restrictions on the books. America substantially does not. Is the prevailing difference the gun culture between countries or does some form of gun control actually make a difference?
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    KS 5150,

    What you bring up as far as gun culture in our country is a factor and like any complicated issue there are many, many factors that play into solutions. However, if you isolate factors and diagnose it as a reason, then it's easy to dismiss it. The US is great at that. It can't be ignored that our culture is part of the problem. It necessarily isn't just the fact that Americans own millions of weapons. I own 10 myself of different kinds. Gun culture also includes how we advertise guns, consume content with gun violence, and the intimidation aspect of it. For instance, in the US, there are advertisements about guns that are intended to make them sexy, think 1950s and 1960s cigarette ads. We have a system of entertainment in which one group on the left bitches about violence, yet produce a lot of content with gun violence. We also have a subculture where guns are a testosterone enhancer for some people when it comes to fighting and intimidating people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mama's Fool View Post
    KS 5150,

    What you bring up as far as gun culture in our country is a factor and like any complicated issue there are many, many factors that play into solutions. However, if you isolate factors and diagnose it as a reason, then it's easy to dismiss it. The US is great at that. It can't be ignored that our culture is part of the problem. It necessarily isn't just the fact that Americans own millions of weapons. I own 10 myself of different kinds. Gun culture also includes how we advertise guns, consume content with gun violence, and the intimidation aspect of it. For instance, in the US, there are advertisements about guns that are intended to make them sexy, think 1950s and 1960s cigarette ads. We have a system of entertainment in which one group on the left bitches about violence, yet produce a lot of content with gun violence. We also have a subculture where guns are a testosterone enhancer for some people when it comes to fighting and intimidating people.
    Thanks very much for the concise answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by KS 5150 View Post
    Quick question: up here in Canada (like most Western countries) we do not have these same issues with mass shootings. Yet we do have the same issues confronting our population. Mental health concerns, criminals getting weapons etc. A big difference is that we do have actual gun laws and restrictions on the books. America substantially does not. Is the prevailing difference the gun culture between countries or does some form of gun control actually make a difference?
    Really don’t think it does. If someone is hell bent on killing a bunch of people, they’re gonna do it.

    I’d say it’s a multifaceted argument on what causes all this shit. Bullying, stress, loosing a job, lots of factors. And, people are nuts. I carry a gun because I just don’t know what someone would do if they’re desperate enough.

    Ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I don’t wear it on my hip like a phone but it’s under my shirt behind my back. If I didnt tell you, you’d be none the wiser. While I agree that what DD said, not everyone should strap up to go to Walgreens. And we all act like it’s 1880 in tombstone.


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    Fwiw, here’s RFK Jr on it

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    Well here is your sneak peak into what Bidens handlers wants to replace the Trump tax plan. I'm not liking it at all. Inflation plus 44.6% federal capital gains rates and increased federal death tax.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...100-years.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardv View Post
    Well here is your sneak peak into what Biden wants to replace the Trump tax plan. I'm not liking it at all. Inflation plus 44.6% federal capital gains rates and increased federal death tax.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...100-years.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    But he’s Catholic
    I'll let our resident accountant digest the numbers. The article is kinda sparse on income specifics.
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    If Biden wins the White House, we better hope he doesn't keep the Senate and win the House too.

    I'll leave the country before I pay taxes like that.
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    But to be serious, that has zero chance of passing, it is more election year pandering.
    If I don't respond to you it means I have you on ignore, which means you are a douchenozzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    If Biden wins the White House, we better hope he doesn't keep the Senate and win the House too.

    I'll leave the country before I pay taxes like that.
    You’d have to
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    You’d have to
    I got plenty of places I can go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardv View Post
    I'll let our resident accountant digest the numbers. The article is kinda sparse on income specifics.
    You weren’t referring to me, but my very shallow understanding of it is that those percentages aren’t engaged unless you earn over 1M annually, or earn over $400k in capital gains in 12 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I got plenty of places I can go.
    I know you do, I’m just saying generally that nobody in their right mind would stay and watch their money taken like that. On top of all the other taxes some states have an income tax. You’d get ass raped with taxes .
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