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    Default Where did EDDIE VAN HALEN's tapping come from - Chris Holmes

    HOLMES: I took lessons from [Eddie's lifelong friend] Terry [Kilgore] probably, say, '74 or '75. And I was painting a house in La Cañada at the time, and there was a guy [that] had gold records on the wall. It was [CANNED HEAT guitarist] Harvey Mandel's house. And I never met him, but I met his wife. We were painting [their house]. And I told Terry, 'Hey, there's this guy Harvey Mandel. Who's Harvey Mandel?' And Terry says, 'You know him?' I go, 'I don't know him, but I know where he lives. I'm painting his house.' And Terry goes, 'Could you ask him if I could meet him?' I guess he's some special jazz guitar player or whatever. So I asked Mandel's wife if I could give Terry's number to him, and Harvey called him, and Terry went up and met him and learned some tricks from him, and he learned to finger tap. Terry was doing that as one of the lessons. And about maybe a month later, Van Halen was doing it. I think that's where the finger tapping comes around — from Harvey Mandel.

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    LYNCH: We both witnessed Harvey Mandel from Canned Heat do a neoclassic tapping thing at a club called the Starwood in Hollywood back in the ’70s.

    http://www.woodytone.com/2009/11/16/...t-saw-tapping/

    BLACKMORE: The first person I saw doing that hammer-on stuff was Harvey Mandel, at the Whisky A Go-Go in '68. I thought "What the hell is he doing?" It was so funny [laughs], Jim Morrison was carried out because he was shouting abuse at the band. Jimi Hendrix was there. We were all getting drunk. Then Harvey Mandel starts doing this stuff [mimes tapping]. "What's he doing?" everybody was saying. Even the audience stopped dancing. Obviously, Eddie Van Halen must have picked up a few of those things.

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    But whatever these guys say, we all know who popularized tapping more than any other guitarist, and it is none other than:
    Eddie Van Halen

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    I thought it was previously established Eddy learned finger tapping from watching David Crosby as a kid. Is that not correct?
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    I was watching the Smithsonian interview on youtube last night and Eddie mentions he got the idea from (I believe he said) Jimmy Page.. Start at 24:50 minutes in the video and he starts talking about how he figured out two handed tapping.



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    It doesn't matter to me where Eddie got the idea from. Its all about what you do with it. Clearly he took the ball and ran with it like nobody else.
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    I remember reading some of those old Guitar World magazines and EVH once told he went to a Led Zep concert or something.

    While Page was playing the guitar solo for Heartbreaker, he thought he knew how to do that using the tapping thing.

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    Eddie Van Halen once claimed the "Heartbreaker" solo as the origin behind the tapping technique. In one review with Guitar World, he said:

    I think I got the idea of tapping watching Jimmy Page do his "Heartbreaker" solo back in 1971. He was doing a pull-off to an open string, and I thought wait a minute, open string ... pull off. I can do that, but what if I use my finger as the nut and move it around? I just kind of took it and ran with it.
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    Well I hate to say it but I think due to Greg Renoff stating the same thing in VH Rising, it likely came from Kilgore. Doesn't matter. We all know people tapped before Eddie. Eddie however took it to the masses.

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    It's like sweep picking. It's been around in guitar since the early days of jazz. Yngwie made it famous and a super sought after technique much in the same vein as Eddie and tapping. It doesn't take away from what Eddie did.

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    21 years old and dad has thrown him the keys to the car!!

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    Wherever he got it from, he certainly took it to a whole new level of standard.

    The only ones post-Ed who fully "get it" on the tapping side of things are Reb Beach & Vito Bratta, off the top of my head. Mostly everyone else sounds sloppy as shit when they try it.

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