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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    As I’ve said, I know for a fact that big trouble was recorded twice. In 1978 and in 1982. And not the demo. The polished one ready for album release.


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    Man that would be nice to hear. One of my favorites.

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    Eddie Van Halen Left Behind ‘Close to a Million CDs’ of Music

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchie5150 View Post
    Eddie Van Halen Left Behind ‘Close to a Million CDs’ of Music

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    I can only imagine what Ed has recorded over the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I can only imagine what Ed has recorded over the years.
    I just remember Gary Cherone saying, while he was in the band, there was so much that he never even got to listen to it all. I'm not sure Gary has ever been accused of being a liar or prone to gross exaggeration, so I tend to believe him when he says things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNGLE DRUMMER View Post
    I just remember Gary Cherone saying, while he was in the band, there was so much that he never even got to listen to it all. I'm not sure Gary has ever been accused of being a liar or prone to gross exaggeration, so I tend to believe him when he says things.
    That's not hard to believe, though. I wouldn't have expected Gary to have had a chance to listen to all that was in there.

    I'm just wondering how much is Eddie (and maybe others) just noodling around with excerpts of potential songs, and how much is made up of songs with some structure and basically musically completed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy812 View Post
    That's not hard to believe, though. I wouldn't have expected Gary to have had a chance to listen to all that was in there.

    I'm just wondering how much is Eddie (and maybe others) just noodling around with excerpts of potential songs, and how much is made up of songs with some structure and basically musically completed.
    Well, he lived in the guest house for, what, a year? To your point, yeah he was only in the band a couple years, but doesn't that kind of prove the point that there must be a lot of recordings to go through?

    To your second point, yeah I know people treat everything some people say as gospel, that Ed couldn't write complete songs and it was always just aimless noodling until they/he sat down and focused it all. Certainly a favorite line of Sam's in recent years. I'm sure there probably is a ton of noodling, but I'm sure there are probably some things like the Wild Life type stuff as well. Ed and Al were in the studio a LOT over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I can only imagine what Ed has recorded over the years.
    I'm sure it's a lot... but nowhere near a million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNGLE DRUMMER View Post
    Well, he lived in the guest house for, what, a year? To your point, yeah he was only in the band a couple years, but doesn't that kind of prove the point that there must be a lot of recordings to go through?

    To your second point, yeah I know people treat everything some people say as gospel, that Ed couldn't write complete songs and it was always just aimless noodling until they/he sat down and focused it all. Certainly a favorite line of Sam's in recent years. I'm sure there probably is a ton of noodling, but I'm sure there are probably some things like the Wild Life type stuff as well. Ed and Al were in the studio a LOT over the years.
    Probably none of the singers ever heard everything. We've all seen the wall of tapes Ed had. Even Ed likely never sat down and listened to all of that, much less Sam, Dave or Gary.

    So what Sam says is probably mostly true....for everything HE heard. But he didn't hear it all, nor did anyone else.
    I'd bet there are just tons and tons of jams, probably some complete tunes. I'm sure there's plenty there someone could sing over and at least make a demo-quality recording.

    Would love to hear some of it eventually.
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    My impression (or maybe I read it... who the F knows....?) the daily/weekly jam sessions that involved Ed, Al, Wolf and whoever else were often recorded. I suspect it may be a ton of instrumentals, and I'm cool with that. I always said I'd buy pretty much whatever Ed put out. Heck I would've paid for a subscription to hear the jam sessions.

    Sam himself has never released any previously unreleased music, which sorta leads me down the path that there is stuff he was on. Except he can't keep quiet about much. We know there are a few Sam-era tunes buried away.

    Personally, I swear "Learning To See" was chopped. It ends VERY abruptly. I wonder what the rest of it sounds like.

    We know a lot of Cherone's second album was recorded.

    The early demos must be around somewhere.

    There's also the purported second half of ADKOT that hasn't seen the light of day either.

    Hang on folks. This could get really interesting.

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    Guitar World August 2012

    Eddie Van Halen on ADKOT.

    "We ended up recording demos for 35 song. All of those songs were ready to go, and we were able to play them all."




    Also
    A May 19, 1999, post on the band's website revealed that Eddie Van Halen, his brother Alex, Cherone and bassist Michael Anthony had worked on demos for seven tracks and written more than 20 new songs together. Cherone described the "four-on-the-floor" "Left for Dead" as "one of the most uptempo songs the band has done," and explained that the lyrics of "Say Uncle" focused on "a dominant woman and a willing, submissive man."

    "You Wear It Well" was said to have "a stellar tapping intro that sounds like an extraterrestrial on acid," while "River Wide" was praised for being "groovy, with a dark edge."

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    I can remember an interview with Eddie, where he mentioned Balance being a double album.

    He claimed they had so many demos for that record and the producer asked them if they wanted a double and they then decided against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaels View Post
    I can remember an interview with Eddie, where he mentioned Balance being a double album.

    He claimed they had so many demos for that record and the producer asked them if they wanted a double and they then decided against it.
    I think part of why there is not as many Sam unreleased songs was Edward's claiming more and more creative real estate including doing more with song selection. With Dave as Edward wrote some cassettes would go to Dave and would pick and choose from a mountain resulting in Dave really having control over song selection up to 84. I think while Edward wrote a ton he simply hoarded more and rather than ask what Sam liked he overtime simply stopped asking the question by only giving out what he already selected. Really part of a creative land grab so I do not think Sam was simply given as much opportunity to make as many unreleased tracks as Dave. It seems once VH became a solo act with Cherone Edward went back to working a ton of songs again so a lot of Gary stuff as well.

    It is a shame cause that was such a core period for the band. For Van Hagar fans I feel they got short changed on that aspect

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    Quote Originally Posted by PT 5150 View Post
    Guitar World August 2012

    Eddie Van Halen on ADKOT.

    "We ended up recording demos for 35 song. All of those songs were ready to go, and we were able to play them all."




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    A May 19, 1999, post on the band's website revealed that Eddie Van Halen, his brother Alex, Cherone and bassist Michael Anthony had worked on demos for seven tracks and written more than 20 new songs together. Cherone described the "four-on-the-floor" "Left for Dead" as "one of the most uptempo songs the band has done," and explained that the lyrics of "Say Uncle" focused on "a dominant woman and a willing, submissive man."

    "You Wear It Well" was said to have "a stellar tapping intro that sounds like an extraterrestrial on acid," while "River Wide" was praised for being "groovy, with a dark edge."

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    More Than Yesterday
    I Don't Miss You...Much
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrin Stephens View Post
    I think part of why there is not as many Sam unreleased songs was Edward's claiming more and more creative real estate including doing more with song selection. With Dave as Edward wrote some cassettes would go to Dave and would pick and choose from a mountain resulting in Dave really having control over song selection up to 84. I think while Edward wrote a ton he simply hoarded more and rather than ask what Sam liked he overtime simply stopped asking the question by only giving out what he already selected. Really part of a creative land grab so I do not think Sam was simply given as much opportunity to make as many unreleased tracks as Dave. It seems once VH became a solo act with Cherone Edward went back to working a ton of songs again so a lot of Gary stuff as well.

    It is a shame cause that was such a core period for the band. For Van Hagar fans I feel they got short changed on that aspect
    Kinda sounds like with Sammy, they didn't have a lot of extra songs lying around. I don't think Sammy wasted much time with lyrics for songs

    that weren't gonna make the record. I seem to recall even Alex saying everything worth releasing has been released. That nothing really is leftover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PT 5150 View Post

    Left For Dead
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    Rock and Roll Cliche
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    If they recorded all those tracks and it's studio quality I think it's a good idea to just release that as a Van Halen album for now. Do a boxset for all the Dave, Sammy unreleased stuff and Ed instrumental stuff. It's going to take time to compile but if the second Gary album is ready to go just put it out.

    The second Gary album though I did recall reading most of it was recorded in an interview.

    It's basically an unreleased Van Halen studio album, it should get released by itself.

    ADKOT will always be Van Halen's last real studio album though.

    I think though the unreleased Gary/VH record it's the quickest option to get some new unheard Van Halen material out for now.

    Assuming though they are not just demos and it's a ready to go studio album.

    Only Gary, Alex, Mike and Wolfie know if there is a ready to go album.
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