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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    Actually, itís a problem when it comes from outlets that are consistently having to issue retractions and walk backs.

    You know this because it isnít our first go around on this topic.
    I think consistently is a strong word. I presume Fox News, who originated this story, tells it like it is 100% of the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    I think consistently is a strong word. I presume Fox News, who originated this story, tells it like it is 100% of the time?

    Honest question: how many stories has Breitbart retracted?


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    Every news organization that has been around long enough has had to retract a story or issue a correction. But you know that since Trump’s election it’s been a race between WaPo, NY Times, and CNN to see who can become the least reliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Streets View Post
    You may have missed Republican Texas and Florida being a huge leader in Corona, this virus is not a political thing, there a good governors and bad governors on both sides. Itís pretty clear the stateís that have handled reopening well and the ones that were disasters. But more than that, youíll also see total numbers across the board in Red and Blue states are pretty even

    When thereís 205k dead, 7 million infected and no national plan or response, CDC communications being manipulated to fit an agenda itís not a red or blue problem, our crappy response is squarely an orange problem


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    And saying there was no national response is just a straight up lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    And saying there was no national response is just a straight up lie.

    GEEZUS
    Yeah. Tell that to the 40 million Americans that went unemployed during the shutdown.
    No response? Trillions of dollars etc.
    Just go for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    And saying there was no national response is just a straight up lie.

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    For months we heard it was up to the Governorís, thatís not a national response, thatís every state for themselves. For crying out loud it took months before heís recommend a mask much less wear one, which he still wont do except for a couple one offs. Heís drummed out the doctors experienced in this in favor of a guy that agrees with his absurd Hurd immunity mentality, and has no experience as an immunologist or epidemiologist, playing it down throughout to this day and still believes it will disappear. Celebrated states reopening ignoring his own guidelines (Texas and Florida leading the way in going wide open, that didnít work out so well) thatís correct, no national response as he wouldnt even hold tight to his own guidelines and tried to force states to open their schools by withholding money. Globally we are seen as the absolute worst in handling this barring maybe Brazil, any way you slice it, he had a first quarter lead and he blew it the remaining 3 quarters


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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    Every news organization that has been around long enough has had to retract a story or issue a correction. But you know that since Trumpís election itís been a race between WaPo, NY Times, and CNN to see who can become the least reliable.
    The difference between journalism and advocacy is corrections and retractions. Many organizations have tried too hard (though Iíd like to see that kind of zeal under all Presidents, not just certain ones), but opinion sites rarely admit theyíre original thoughts are wrong or biased or based upon bad information.

    But there is a distrust of anonymous sourcing when it comes to reporting that looks bad for the President and a tendency not to care when it comes to other stuff.

    All of the incentives some say are there for certain publications to rely on anonymous sources to damage a candidate they donít prefer is also true of a Fox News story on Biden wanting breaks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Streets View Post
    For months we heard it was up to the Governor’s, that’s not a national response, that’s every state for themselves. For crying out loud it took months before he’s recommend a mask much less wear one, which he still wont do except for a couple one offs. He’s drummed out the doctors experienced in this in favor of a guy that agrees with his absurd Hurd immunity mentality, and has no experience as an immunologist or epidemiologist, playing it down throughout to this day and still believes it will disappear. Celebrated states reopening ignoring his own guidelines (Texas and Florida leading the way in going wide open, that didn’t work out so well) that’s correct, no national response as he wouldnt even hold tight to his own guidelines and tried to force states to open their schools by withholding money. Globally we are seen as the absolute worst in handling this barring maybe Brazil, any way you slice it, he had a first quarter lead and he blew it the remaining 3 quarters


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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    There was a national response
    Yep.

    It sucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Yep.

    It sucked.
    Not entirely fair.

    And to say there was no response is just ridiculous. The ships to NY was part of it.

    But hey, whatever
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    There is plenty of blame to go around, a lot of it on the American people.

    But he's the captain of the ship, fair doesn't come into it. We have more resources, better health services and better logistics than any country in the world, and we mucked it up.

    Might not be his fault, but he gets the blame. That's how it works.
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    100 million pre existing?
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    Biden is already shaky
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    Good luck picking one of these two.

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