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    Brett I have a question for you.

    Have you ever played a sport?

    I’m asking if you have a certain insight into the competitive mentality.

    So have you?
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    But change is!"

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    Ok, I won’t draw it out.

    Have you ever noticed that many times the better or more gifted player or team loses to a dangerous, but not as talented opponent?

    The simple answer is they choke, but why?

    Because they believe they should win, as it’s some sort of forgone conclusion. They’re more talented, coached better, they don’t cheat, etc ...

    They feel as though they should wipe the opponent off the field with ease, that every play or the large majority of the plays should go their way. It’s only right, right?

    When a team or individual goes out to the field of play thinking they have the “high moral” ground (especially) they are exponentially more likely to overplay, to overplay even more at the first sign of adversity, they press, they get tight, their game doesn’t flow and as the score goes against them, the downward spiral becomes a black hole, from which they can’t recover.

    I knew this was gonna happen with so many teams that played the Astros this year (regardless of Covid). Too many teams felt like they had to win, to right some wrong for all of baseball. How many teams declared they were gonna “get them?” The MLB front office had to step in.

    Yeah, that kind of mentality is short circuit anyone’s ability to let the game flow.

    It’s been on full display in this series, that’s why I posted the Star Wars clip about the hate.

    I’m not saying the Astros are gonna win game 7, but if the Ray’s come out of the tunnel with any of this in their minds...it’ll be like the Astros are taking the diamond up 3 to 5 runs before the Anthem is sung.

    So let that hate and self-righteous indignation fuel the Super-ego of the fans and players.

    The Astros are bad, they’re jerks, and that brand of hate will give them a chance to add another ring to their collection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombattt View Post
    Brett I have a question for you.

    Have you ever played a sport?

    Iím asking if you have a certain insight into the competitive mentality.

    So have you?
    Besides playing typical team sports as a youth, I was also a professional athlete. So yes I think I have. And Iíve never cheated or done anything illegal to gain an edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Besides playing typical team sports as a youth, I was also a professional athlete. So yes I think I have. And I’ve never cheated or done anything illegal to get an edge.
    What sport did you play professionally?
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    What sport did you play professionally?
    Why does it matter?

    What is your point by asking me if Iíve ever played a sport?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Why does it matter?

    What is your point by asking me if I’ve ever played a sport?
    It was in my longer post just after the post you replied to
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    I asked, because honestly, judging by a lot of your posts in the Sports Forum, I didnít think you played...and certainly never suspected at a high level. Thatís why I asked.
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    You can justify it anyway you want itís cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    You can justify it anyway you want it’s cheating.
    I’m not justifying anything...of course they cheated.

    My point is the righteous indignation about their cheating is what is has caused their opponents to choke games away. Simple as that.

    And let’s not kid the fact that yes, they cheated and the likelihood of their being the only team in the MLB is slim to none.
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    So now what sport did you play professionally?
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    Iím sure most people here donít think itís a sport so not really worth talking about.
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    Iím not justifying anything...of course they cheated.

    My point is the righteous indignation about their cheating is what is has caused their opponents to choke games away. Simple as that.

    And letís not kid the fact that yes, they cheated and the likelihood of their being the only team in the MLB is slim to none.
    Iím pretty confident they are the only team that banged trash cans and had such an organized plot to illegally figure out pitches. Yes I do believe that. I also think itís a gigantic copout to say well other teams do it too. Oh well that makes it OK then. Believe me if the Dodgers got caught cheating I would be the first one to condemn them and I certainly wouldnít be defending it. Ever. The fact that they were caught and then doubled down of being assholes is what really has me pissed off more than anything. I mean they were a bunch of assholes before they got caught, now theyíre just intolerable. They still seem to think what they did wasnít a big deal. And that part bothers me. And thatís why their title should be taken away. It doesnít really matter anyway because no one considers them a champion in 2017 except Astro fans. Itís already tainted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I’m sure most people here don’t think it’s a sport so not really worth talking about.
    I’ve been searching, I had no idea there were that many athletes named Brett Norton
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    Iíve been searching, I had no idea there were that many athletes named Brett Norton
    You wonít find anything. I stopped paying my dues and competing many years ago. I was professional in the 90s and early 2000s. It was bowling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I’m pretty confident they are the only team that banged trash cans and had such an organized plot to illegally figure out pitches. Yes I do believe that. I also think it’s a gigantic copout to say well other teams do it too. Oh well that makes it OK then. Believe me if the Dodgers got caught cheating I would be the first one to condemn them and I certainly wouldn’t be defending it. Ever. The fact that they were caught and then doubled down of being assholes is what really has me pissed off more than anything. I mean they were a bunch of assholes before they got caught, now they’re just intolerable. They still seem to think what they did wasn’t a big deal. And that part bothers me. And that’s why their title should be taken away. It doesn’t really matter anyway because no one considers them a champion in 2017 except Astro fans. It’s already tainted.

    I’m not coping out. I was a professional umpire for 10 years and my late Uncle was a crew chief (home plate) umpire for the MLB.

    Players and coaches at the highest level of their sport push that advantage envelope to the very brink. Legalities aside, it many times it crosses the line of cheating as far as a level playing field. Remember PED’s? Do you really think that is over?
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