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    Default EBMM/Peavey/EVH Neck Question

    Good morning, all. After writing my last post about my MIM Wolfgang Special, I had a question pop into my head and I thought I'd post it - if I were to play an EBMM, a Peavey Wolfgang, and an EVH Wolf, would I feel an appreciable difference between the three necks? I know neck feel is largely subjective, but I was curious which one is the easiest to play fast (or just your personal preference, for those of you who play all three)? Or are they all basically the same shape? I did play an EBMM during my college years at a guitar shop in Boston back in the mid 90's (I'd basically stop in once a week to play the thing - the owner was really cool about it, given that he knew I was a poor college student who could only afford to buy strings and picks), but it has been so long I don't remember the feel.

    I tend to like very wide and flat necks and the one on my Wolfgang feels a bit narrow to me (and chunkier than I'm used to) - not a bad thing, just different. I was curious if this was true across all three of Ed's signature guitars.

    I did search using Vhlinks' search tool as well as Google, and I didn't see any threads like this on this forum. Of course, if I completely missed a thread staring me in the face that answers this question, mods please feel free to merge or delete this one.

    Thanks in advance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volumeto11 View Post
    Good morning, all. After writing my last post about my MIM Wolfgang Special, I had a question pop into my head and I thought I'd post it - if I were to play an EBMM, a Peavey Wolfgang, and an EVH Wolf, would I feel an appreciable difference between the three necks? I know neck feel is largely subjective, but I was curious which one is the easiest to play fast (or just your personal preference, for those of you who play all three)? Or are they all basically the same shape? I did play an EBMM during my college years at a guitar shop in Boston back in the mid 90's (I'd basically stop in once a week to play the thing - the owner was really cool about it, given that he knew I was a poor college student who could only afford to buy strings and picks), but it has been so long I don't remember the feel.

    I tend to like very wide and flat necks and the one on my Wolfgang feels a bit narrow to me (and chunkier than I'm used to) - not a bad thing, just different. I was curious if this was true across all three of Ed's signature guitars.

    I did search using Vhlinks' search tool as well as Google, and I didn't see any threads like this on this forum. Of course, if I completely missed a thread staring me in the face that answers this question, mods please feel free to merge or delete this one.

    Thanks in advance!
    The evh has the thinnest neck profile, which most players associate with fast playability, the peavey has a fatter profile, but in my opinion is still easy to play & I think the ebmm is some where in between (never had an ebmm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by joezlo View Post
    The evh has the thinnest neck profile, which most players associate with fast playability, the peavey has a fatter profile, but in my opinion is still easy to play & I think the ebmm is some where in between (never had an ebmm)
    I have an EBMM EVH & I would concur with that. Of course, as you said, its always subjective.


    I generally prefer the EBMM neck, but my MIM Wolf is great as well
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    Here are the measurements from thickest to thinnest. EBMM and Peavey are first fret / 12th fret. EVH are third fret / 12th fret.

    • Peavey Wolfgang: .815" / .940"
    • EBMM EVH/Axis: .81" / 91"
    • EVH Wolfgang USA, Signature and Special: .805" / .890"
    • EVH Wolfgang Standard: .790" / .880"


    I definitely perceive the difference when going from my Musikraft EBMM profile to my Peavey, EVH Special or EVH Standard Wolfgangs.

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    That's really interesting, Jedi. For starters, I didn't realize that the Standard has a slightly different size than the other EVH Wolfgangs (I mean, not dramatically different, but I had always thought the necks were identical through the range... fascinating).

    I vaguely remember Eddie talking about how when they made the EBMM, his old Kramer neck was digitally scanned so that the new one would be an exact replica. I'm guessing that the Kramer dimensions didn't carry through to the Peavey and EVH necks?

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    Right. Theyíre all asymmetrically shaped, so thatís consistent. But the only one that is supposed to have the same shape as the 5150 is the EBMM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi McFly View Post
    Right. They’re all asymmetrically shaped, so that’s consistent. But the only one that is supposed to have the same shape as the 5150 is the EBMM
    And the EVHs aren't asymmetrical, are they? Or are they just subtly so? All I have is a Peavey, a Warmoth WG neck, and a Musikraft EVH.

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    You know, not to derail my own thread, but I do have a somewhat-related question: when doing a setup, should I or shouldn't I oil the neck? In the instructions that came with the guitar, Eddie says he never uses mineral oil on the neck, and your natural hand grease will do the job in 8-10 months. On the other side of the manual it says "oiling the neck twice a year is recommended to prevent the fingerboard from shrinking and cracking" and mentions using furniture paste to seal it after it has been oiled.

    I've never oiled my neck in four years of ownership but I'm wondering if I should start at my next restring and setup.

    What does the hive mind here at VHlinks say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volumeto11 View Post
    You know, not to derail my own thread, but I do have a somewhat-related question: when doing a setup, should I or shouldn't I oil the neck? In the instructions that came with the guitar, Eddie says he never uses mineral oil on the neck, and your natural hand grease will do the job in 8-10 months. On the other side of the manual it says "oiling the neck twice a year is recommended to prevent the fingerboard from shrinking and cracking" and mentions using furniture paste to seal it after it has been oiled.

    I've never oiled my neck in four years of ownership but I'm wondering if I should start at my next restring and setup.

    What does the hive mind here at VHlinks say?
    I have never oiled the necks on any of my EVH guitars. I don’t think it’s needed really.

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    Iíve have never put oil on any neck ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I’ve have never put oil on any neck ever.
    I was going to say the same thing. Ive had my Wolfgang since 2004. Never put any oil on it.

    Oil and furniture? Good.

    Oil and guitar wood? No.
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    The only oil that's ever gone into my necks is my sweat and hand grease. Fastest playability ever, and a good security measure against other people wanting to play it -laughs-

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    I use Birchwood Casey TruOil on necks when I'm building stuff, like the WD fat Tele neck for a guitar I'm building right now. I've used Formby's Tung Oil a bunch, too.

    That said, I've never done anything to my Peavey Wolfgang Special's neck.

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    I've never oiled the necks on any of the guitars I've purchased.

    On my builds I use one application of Birchwood Casey Gunstock Oil and Wax on initial assembly. After that? Never again. The only exception is the Tele I built with a natural finish - I did probably 10 applications of oil on that one.

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    Thanks for the responses - confirming that my first instinct (no oil) is correct. I wonder if the manual has the recommendation to oil it as just protective legalese in case someone has an issue and sues? It's funny that on one side of the manual it has oil instructions, and on the other side Eddie's saying, "Finger sweat is enough!"

 

 

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