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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    They are. Too many people have just stopped being careful. Happened stateside months ago and we are following those footsteps. The results are as expected.

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    There are definitely people being less careful and it's contributing. But it's minor compared to the effect that unvaccinated younger people who are going into work and spreading the variants is having.

    I'm just not sure the measures that have been instituted this evening will make any sort of meaningful impact. We need more vaccines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    There are definitely people being less careful and it's contributing. But it's minor compared to the effect that unvaccinated younger people who are going into work and spreading the variants is having.

    I'm just not sure the measures that have been instituted this evening will make any sort of meaningful impact. We need more vaccines.
    do yourself and drive around tonight and let me know how busy it is around. I bet the plaza down the street from my house is packed with the usual parade of losers.

    Ford has no control over the vaccines we're getting so he's trying to drive down mobility. I hate this policy but he hasn't got many plays left in his playbook. He's basically begged people to stay the fuck home for the past couple of weeks and a rather significant percentgage of people are not listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    do yourself and drive around tonight and let me know how busy it is around. I bet the plaza down the street from my house is packed with the usual parade of losers.

    Ford has no control over the vaccines we're getting so he's trying to drive down mobility. I hate this policy but he hasn't got many plays left in his playbook. He's basically begged people to stay the fuck home for the past couple of weeks and a rather significant percentgage of people are not listening.
    Probably not the best time to go for a drive to scope out idiots.

    I'm in Islington City Centre (Etobicoke) and it's been pretty quiet around these parts.

    And let it be known, I blame Doug and Justin equally here. We need vaccines and the preparation and rollout has been abysmal. But if I were to place a wager, I'd bet that allowing the cops to stop people at random to essentially instil fear by way of a $750 subjective fine, isn't going to make a difference when it comes to the numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Bingo.

    Better placement of polling stations (and more of them) and an end to gerrymandering. That would eliminate the vast majority of vote suppression. and very easily.

    Once again, was Georgia’s early voting restricted to within the registration district or was it county or state wide? If it was country or state wide then it wasn’t a grand plan to stop certain people from voting. Also this year in particular had mail in voting...the ballots...that restricted no one from voting...but how soon people forget that...it’s about water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    and no one is interested in doing any of that. I don't think I've ever been more than a 10-minute walk from my election day or advanced polling station in my life. But no one is interested in supporters of the other side having an easy time voting. This is what happens when you know who is gonna win most counties before a single vote is cast.

    Um...the 2020 General Election had to be the easiest access to, and participation in voting in the the history of the US
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    I was looking at our county dashboard and cases amongst people 0-19 are now greater than cases above 60. We have had a slight uptick, but hospitals and ICUs are fine, lowest the whole pandemic. In Michigan the biggest increases are amongst the young.

    I think more contagious variants are hitting the only “kindling” left, young people. As more vaccines hit, we will better off and hopefully avoid a 4th wave.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wombattt View Post
    Um...the 2020 General Election had to be the easiest access to, and participation in voting in the the history of the US
    And many states are trying to ensure that never happens again

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    Probably not the best time to go for a drive to scope out idiots.

    I'm in Islington City Centre (Etobicoke) and it's been pretty quiet around these parts.

    And let it be known, I blame Doug and Justin equally here. We need vaccines and the preparation and rollout has been abysmal. But if I were to place a wager, I'd bet that allowing the cops to stop people at random to essentially instil fear by way of a $750 subjective fine, isn't going to make a difference when it comes to the numbers.
    I blame society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    And many states are trying to ensure that never happens again

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    Yes, but is it because of the massive potential for voter fraud, blocking voter groups, or both? The sensationalism of “oh no look, Georgia is banning water from being passed out to voters waiting in line...how racist.” Doesn’t hold much ‘water.’
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombattt View Post
    Yes, but is it because of the massive potential for voter fraud, blocking voter groups, or both? The sensationalism of “oh no look, Georgia is banning water from being passed out to voters waiting in line...how racist.” Doesn’t hold much ‘water.’
    I think it's rather naive to think voter fraud plays much of a factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    I think it's rather naive to think voter fraud plays much of a factor.

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    I think it’s naive to think that it doesn’t. The Justice Department issued a qualified statement on the 2020 election, no “widespread” voter fraud, not we found no voter fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombattt View Post
    I think it’s naive to think that it doesn’t. The Justice Department issued a qualified statement on the 2020 election, no “widespread” voter fraud, not no voter fraud.
    There has never been an election ever that has had no fraud.


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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    There has never been an election ever that has had no fraud.


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    And believe it or not, these laws mitigate that fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    I think it's rather naive to think voter fraud plays much of a factor.

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    I think it is far more naive to think there wasn't in the last election. If everything was running correctly, there would have been no reason to shut out poll watchers. The stop counting b.s. from 10 - 11pm only to start back up around 2 ish and find millions of votes for one guy. Sure all of those votes could have went for the one guy, but why play games like that?

    Next election will only be worse as both sides will pulling b.s. because it was proven to go without a hitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD 5150 View Post
    I think it is far more naive to think there wasn't in the last election. If everything was running correctly, there would have been no reason to shut out poll watchers. The stop counting b.s. from 10 - 11pm only to start back up around 2 ish and find millions of votes for one guy. Sure all of those votes could have went for the one guy, but why play games like that?

    Next election will only be worse as both sides will pulling b.s. because it was proven to go without a hitch.
    There is in every election. The motivation behind those laws was not to stop fraud, it was to make it more difficult for a block of Democratic voters to vote.

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