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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    It's a type of flu, I think it was always believed that the winter months would be pretty bad.
    anything contagious is going to be worse in the winter months due to people being in close contact indoors. But even with masking, and distancing and washing and sanitizing and closures it's still worse than it ever was.

    But my point really was that here we are, in this state, with the incoming variants being even more contagious and people are being told that we are at the lowest level of cases since October, so this thing must be over. But it isn't and now isn't the time to let up on restrictions, not with an even more contagious variant poised to become the dominant strain in the near future

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    The recipe for making sure people on the fence donít get vaccinated is to tell them nothing changes and we canít let up at all, which is what we are doing.

    ďSo I stick this rushed chemical in my body and I canít see in anyone, have to wear a mask, and things wonít open or I donít put it in body and I canít see anyone, have to wear a mask, and things wonít open?í What do you think theyíll choose?

    We should be telling people that vaccinated groups can se each other and hug each other again. You can mostly do the things youíre missing.

    However, you still need to wear a mask to Home Depot until we reach herd immunity.

    Thatís a better message. We also need to take a hard look at California and Florida and whether or not what California is doing is worth it. Because it looks very much like theyíll end up with similar numbers with vastly different approaches, one much more harmful to the economy than the other. We cannot politicize this. It very much seems Florida will get similar results with a scalpel approach as opposed to a hammer.


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    We are getting to a point we need to have a national discussion, without politicizing it (yeah right) about how we handle this going forward. Because everyone continuing to sit at home on their hands for years on end is not an option.
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    Yep itís getting old. Itís totally affecting my career too. Iím accepting it but Iím frustrated.

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    Part of being able to get people back to work is opening the schools and the teacherís unions are holding a position that I can only interpret as never wanting to return to school.

    Schools can reopen safely even without teacher vaccinations, yet the union even was able to influence the most recent CDC guidelines.

    One thing Iíd say about Trump is I wouldnít have put it past him to order the teachers back. Sorry, peers. I know a dude in his 40s whose a grocery checker and was within 6 feet of people all day. Heís now on a ventilator for over a month and will probably never recover. Iíve been at school all year. Suck it up, follow the science, which says schools can open safely, or get replaced. Sorry.

    Once kids are back in school, start taking a hard look at the economic damage CA has done, the incalculable damage to students, and weigh that against what places with similar numbers did. I think youíll find things need to open except large indoor events.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    We are getting to a point we need to have a national discussion, without politicizing it (yeah right) about how we handle this going forward. Because everyone continuing to sit at home on their hands for years on end is not an option.
    The country is getting vaccinated. Can't see you guys sitting at home on your hands for years.
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    The country is getting vaccinated. Can't see you guys sitting at home on your hands for years.
    Told anyone who wants a vaccine can get one by summer or sooner, but also being told no normalcy until maybe the end of the year and masks into 2022.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Told anyone who wants a vaccine can get one by summer or sooner, but also being told no normalcy until maybe the end of the year and masks into 2022.


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    This.

    A lot of people are simply refusing to get vaccinated and will continue to do so.

    And all the ideas I've read on how to combat this idiocy are chock full of government over reach, but I am open to ideas.
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    Aerosmith just postponed their Summer 2021 tour dates to Summer 2022.

    I don't know how some of the lesser known musicians are going to make it through this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Part of being able to get people back to work is opening the schools and the teacherís unions are holding a position that I can only interpret as never wanting to return to school.

    Schools can reopen safely even without teacher vaccinations, yet the union even was able to influence the most recent CDC guidelines.

    One thing Iíd say about Trump is I wouldnít have put it past him to order the teachers back. Sorry, peers. I know a dude in his 40s whose a grocery checker and was within 6 feet of people all day. Heís now on a ventilator for over a month and will probably never recover. Iíve been at school all year. Suck it up, follow the science, which says schools can open safely, or get replaced. Sorry.

    Once kids are back in school, start taking a hard look at the economic damage CA has done, the incalculable damage to students, and weigh that against what places with similar numbers did. I think youíll find things need to open except large indoor events.


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    We can certainly have more things open up, depending on the ability to do it safely with the social distancing in place. I've been going to work all along. We've had a few people get the virus, but it was never passed among employees while working.
    Our schools opened on time and only the middle and high schools closed from Thanksgiving to mid-January. Those schools, with more students, had a more difficult time implementing social distancing. But back in Aug/Sept we had a sub-1% positivity rate. Other parts of the country at that time, Arizona for instance, were sky-rocketing so it made sense not to open.

    Personally, I am still not going to go sit in a restaurant and eat, but I'll continue to order take out for now. Hell, now is probably the time to go to a movie theater--I imagine no one is there!

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    I have said it for months. There never will be a normal. You will be required to wear masks like seat belts, bike helmets, etc. No way will government and society give up on additional control. Like the Patriot act.

    Live in fear until you are planted.

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