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    This is a union thing. Most teachers want to do their job, but if youíre stuck with one of the bad ones, they can be BAD.

    It was enough of a problem that a close friend told me her union (the district we live in) told itís members to refrain from posting vacation pictures to social media because it harms their negotiating position. (Note it didnít say donít go, just not to make it obvious.)

    My district is non union and we deal with extremely low income families with kids whoíve never been successful in school. We all did everything but beat down their doors to get work, for many reasons, but for those who arenít as dedicated, it was because our jobs depended on it.


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    Extended Summer vacation over, teachers.

    Put on yer mask, like the rest of us, and get back in the classroom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Ours were pretty good. Some of the students took it as an opportunity to take a vacation but for the most part teachers tried their best to get kids to get something accomplished.

    My wife had 4-5 kids who did near nothing. Spoke to their parents and got little support. Everyone else was quite good.

    My kids teachers all called and did google classroom sessions. Could have done more but no complaints out of me.

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    I can only speak for the elementary school here as that's where my littles go but our teachers tried heroically to teach remotely with little advanced planning. Now that they have had the experience and all summer to plan, they feel confident that they will be able to come up with a better remote teaching technique should they be required to do so this fall. The plan has not been revealed yet

    A neighboring school district has been the first in our county to reveal their plan and parents are losing their shit over it. They have three plans in place "Green" is for when we have few or no new cases reported and means everyone goes to school as normal. Yellow ( which is what they are starting with and is for times when cases are rising as they are now) School is 4 days a week with monday reserved for phone conferences with parents, "interventions: with students and zoom meetings among teachers. The other four days have the students divided into 2 groups with all family members being in the same group. Kids in group A attend Tuesday and Thursday, and remotely Wed and Friday and vice versa for group B. This way only half the kids are there at any time and the other kids can watch and participate remotely in the same class work.

    "Red" is for times when there is a high rise in cases and it means all kids learn remotely.

    I think it is a reasonable plan, but there is such a division among parents. We have a lot of stay at home moms who just want to go the remote route. Then we have a lot of working parents who want their kids in school 5 days, dammit. And then we have the divorced families who are trying to figure out how this is going to work for them.
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    Over here teachers went straight into online learning mode, no vacation as it's Winter. It's been super tough for teachers, actually all edu employees, and for the kids and parents.
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    My sister in law teaches 5th grade. She said it is much more challenging to teach remotely. She also said her day never ends. Someone is always needing something explained whether it is the student or the parent. Learned yesterday her year starts remotely. The district I live in announced remote for the first quarter as well.

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    "Remote" instruction is not healthy for children.

    I believe the focus needs to be on the kids, not the teachers.
    And what are working parents supposed to do?

    Housebound kids & stressed parents, is a recipe for a lot of anger & depression.

    The educators need to step up, or step down & let someone else do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    "Remote" instruction is not healthy for children.

    I believe the focus needs to be on the kids, not the teachers.
    And what are working parents supposed to do?

    Housebound kids & stressed parents, is a recipe for a lot of anger & depression.

    The educators need to step up, or step down & let someone else do it.
    neither is getting covid. End of the day kids should be back in school but if you can't do it safely then you shouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    neither is getting covid. End of the day kids should be back in school but if you can't do it safely then you shouldn't.
    The rest of us are exposed, taking precautions & back to work, why shouldn't they?

    I'm getting tired of the "work at homes" preaching who get's to be "safe", and who doesn't
    really matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    "Remote" instruction is not healthy for children.

    I believe the focus needs to be on the kids, not the teachers.
    And what are working parents supposed to do?

    Housebound kids & stressed parents, is a recipe for a lot of anger & depression.

    The educators need to step up, or step down & let someone else do it.
    Bottom line, it's a no-win situation.

    Kids go to school, as soon as someone tests positive at least the entire class and staff has to stay at home for two weeks. Now multiply that by whatever number of kids and staff together in classes and better yet, use that model for High Schoolers who are in multiple classes per day and it quickly becomes a massive clusterfuck.

    Ignore any sort of test positive/quarantine at home scenario, and sooner rather than later, kids or teachers spread it to family and friends, some get real sick, maybe a couple people die. Per school.

    Flip side, there's an entire generation of kids who are actually going to be even more illiterate and socially dysfunctional then the current generation of kids are thanks to "Remote Learning."

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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    The rest of us are exposed, taking precautions & back to work, why shouldn't they?

    I'm getting tired of the "work at homes" preaching who get's to be "safe", and who doesn't
    really matter.
    Adults can take precautions a whole lot easier than 7 year olds.

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    Israel's second wave was driven by infection in schools.

    Yes, getting kids into school should be an absolute priority, but it has to be done safely, or you'll run out of staff.
    In other states here that do have schools open, when infections are detected, they have to close for deep cleaning, then reopen.
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    The problem is relying on others to be responsible throughout the school year. I know that my family and I have been careful throughout this ordeal, but there are plenty of careless and clueless parents out there.

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    I simply think that we all need to get a grip and realize this isn't going away this fall. Its not going away this winter and not the spring and summer. Here we are in beginning of August and no vaccine. Yeah working on one but if it does work, how many are getting it? We can't even have people wear masks and cannot even agree on its effectiveness. Now you are saying "here inject this into your body and while we don't know anything about long term effects, trust us" You give it to your kids? You taking it?

    Oh an you have to make 330 million of them for the United States. 8 or 9 billion for the world.

    Covid is here like your out of work brother who needs to crash for a few days on the couch. People are going to get infected and people are going to die. Its a part of life now just like polio was a part of life in the early 20th century. Just like cholera, and previously smallpox. This is going to be going on for at least a year or two maybe forever because we all know the flu vaccine still doesn't prevent 100k of deaths here every year.

    Yes its a tough decision for parents, teachers, etc but you can't just do everything remote. Not kids. They need to socialize. Ensure precautions are in place. Don't use a one size fits all approach. If some families are ok and financially equipped to have kids work remote. Do it a few days a week. For those that can't, well they go to school. I am tired of hearing about the poor teachers. My sister works the checkout at Target for far less money and exposes herself daily to all kinds of people. Since the outbreak. We have health care workers actually in rooms with the infected. You wanted to be a teacher because you supposedly had a calling. You wanted to educated. Educate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post
    We have health care workers actually in rooms with the infected. You wanted to be a teacher because you supposedly had a calling. You wanted to educated. Educate.
    Healthcare workers signed up for that level of risk - educators did not.

    Teachers shouldnít have to pay the price for the government botching our response to covid.

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