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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardv View Post
    Anti-vaxx Christian broadcaster Marcus Lamb dies of Covid aged 64

    This guy was a pretty big wheel in christian tv he owned a network. Just get vaccinated folks God helps those who help themselves. RIP
    I guess he let Jesus Take the Wheel and drive it into a ditch.

    Not a knock on Christianity, but God gave you a brain...he meant for you to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I guess he let Jesus Take the Wheel and drive it into a ditch.

    Not a knock on Christianity, but God gave you a brain...he meant for you to use it.
    Was gonna say something familiar but just like the anti vaxx people say "See, you were vaccinated and you still got covid".

    Yeah? And you weren't vaccinated and you croaked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I guess he let Jesus Take the Wheel and drive it into a ditch.

    Not a knock on Christianity, but God gave you a brain...he meant for you to use it.
    there are a few meme's out there that say a similar thing... the most on point (to me) was someone who'd died from COVID standing at the pearly gates saying 'God - why didn't you save me?' and God's response was, 'I gave you masks, social distancing, vaccines...what more did you want??'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    there are a few meme's out there that say a similar thing... the most on point (to me) was someone who'd died from COVID standing at the pearly gates saying 'God - why didn't you save me?' and God's response was, 'I gave you masks, social distancing, vaccines...what more did you want??'
    Exactly. My cousin is very religious but a huge anti vaxxer, well she caught it, was in icu for two or three weeks,lucky to be alive, now in a nursing home trying to learn how to walk again at 61. She's now posting on FB glad that God allowed her to live, the power of prayer saved her, etc.
    Dealing with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rchop84 View Post
    Exactly. My cousin is very religious but a huge anti vaxxer, well she caught it, was in icu for two or three weeks,lucky to be alive, now in a nursing home trying to learn how to walk again at 61. She's now posting on FB glad that God allowed her to live, the power of prayer saved her, etc.
    I'm religious, and I don't think Jesus would save me from dying from Covid when there is a perfectly good vaccine available to take.

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    While I may have my opinions on the effectiveness of masks, I do like the vaccine. I think if you are deciding not to be vaxxed well you are taking a risk. Like driving with 6 beers in you. Raw doggiing a Kardashian. The guy was stupid just like those guys were stupid trying to pick a fight with kid with an AR 15. Poor decisions equal poor results.

    I know everybody has different faiths, etc but one thing that is not really addressed with some of the Christians who are refuse the vaccine or believe in the power of prayer is that with this guy, he believed in prosperity gospel. Like Joel Osteen. You pray, God will protect and even give you riches. The more you pray the more riches that God will provide. Not to get into doctrine but this isn't mentioned in the NT. Sure God will protect if he chooses. He he doesn't well then you are like the Israelites who died when the building fell on them. Bad things do happen. You also don't tempt fate. Paul for example told the seaman that they should pull into port and they didn't choose to beleive them, 14 days of a storm later they crashed on an island.

    I don't know why some Christians are stupid. This guy was but for the most part, most of us are vaccinated.

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    Anti-vaxx acquaintance I have argued with on FAcebook, a very close relative of theirs just passed away from COVID. This is your atypical 'the vaccines don't work, and we are vastly overcounting deaths because of the people who died with COVID as opposed to from COVID.' And the same thing with this relative. This relative had health problems and COVID was the final nail, but not the cause of death because of the other conditions.

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    I do agree that there is a difference of dying with COVID or from COVID, and the CDC and other organizations could have done a much better job with reporting it.

    I think they were afraid that if they showed that the deaths were mainly limited to the elderly and the already sick, that fewer people would take it seriously. And they might have been right, but that is not their call to make, and I think the lack of transparency by the USG on this from the start fed into an already existing distrust of the government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I'm religious, and I don't think Jesus would save me from dying from Covid when there is a perfectly good vaccine available to take.
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    Well The Omnicron Variant is in the United States. Who would have thought that? I mean your flight ban took three days to go into effect and lets be honest, we really can't control who or what comes into our country anyway. Its not like we were going to prevent it.

    That said, it is what it is. Two months from now it will be another vairant. Then another. Then another. I hope its not bad but its the world we are living in and COVID runs it

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    Now I saw a report that this Omnicron variant was in Nigeria before it was found in South Africa. Does it really matter? At the end of the day, all variants can be traced back to China. We shouldn't lose sight of that.

    Anytime there's a new variant discovered somewhere, it's a good bet that it won't be contained and will make the rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post
    Well The Omnicron Variant is in the United States. Who would have thought that? I mean your flight ban took three days to go into effect and lets be honest, we really can't control who or what comes into our country anyway. Its not like we were going to prevent it.

    That said, it is what it is. Two months from now it will be another vairant. Then another. Then another. I hope its not bad but its the world we are living in and COVID runs it
    So another booster for this variant? IDK…for whatever reason, my arm swelled a lot after the booster shot—no swelling with the previous two. I looked like Quagmire without trying:


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    Travel bans weren't going to work. It was in Europe a week before South Africa identified it. There's no reason is wasn't here already before we enacted the travel ban. Plus, there were two countries in southern Africa where we didn't ban travel, but they had confirmed cases of omicron, as did Israel, Belgium, Hong Kong, UK, Germany, Italy and the CZech Republic. One of the cases in Belgium had no association with anyone who traveled to South AFrica, so community spread had already started in places.

    You would have to do what Australia has done, but then you'd have way, way harsher restrictions on civil rights in order to stop the movement and interaction of people within the country. It just isn't feasible. And it punishes a country like South Africa for having a great medical system that is really good at identifying viruses and new strains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I'm religious, and I don't think Jesus would save me from dying from Covid when there is a perfectly good vaccine available to take.

    Just my $0.02.
    Yep.. Maybe God gave these scientists the brains to create a vaccine that some of these dumbasses won't take
    Dealing with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rchop84 View Post
    Yep.. Maybe God gave these scientists the brains to create a vaccine that some of these dumbasses won't take

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