Are your favorite Instagram guitarists actually faking it?
Follow us on...
Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Facebook Watch us on YouTube
Register
Likes Likes:  0
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 20
  1. #1
    The Full Bug
    ScottyBHarris's Avatar
    Join Date
    07.03.06
    Location
    Dallas Texas
    Posts
    2,021
    Posts Per Day
    0.39
    Favorite VH Album

    VHII
    Favorite VH Song

    Light up the Sky
    Last Online

    Yesterday @ 03:15 PM
    Likes (Given)
    54
    Likes (Received)
    56
    Thanks (Given)
    655
    Thanks (Received)
    752

    Achievements:
    Padawan PraiserWell-LikedVHLinks Proud!25,000 VHL Life PointsOld Guard

    Default Are your favorite Instagram guitarists actually faking it?

    Advanced audio and video editing trickery allegedly used to achieve ultra-precise clean playing styles

    We’ve all watched electric guitar players on Instagram deliver impossibly precise performances at insane bpms and wondered, ‘How can they play that clean?’ Well, as it turns out, they might not be playing it at all.

    YouTube guitar teacher Jack Gardiner has posted a video entitled ‘Fake guitar playing - it needs to stop!’, where he alleges your favorite players - not naming names - might not actually be playing.

    Gardiner opens the clip with a very familiar example of this fake guitar playing, before demonstrating how he achieved the effect by speeding up the audio.

    He even goes on to say that some players will go to the lengths of exporting MIDI from Guitar Pro and convert it to audio to play through an amp sim, as demonstrated in videos by fellow YouTubers Levi Clay and Leon Todd, the latter of whom you can watch below.




  2. #2
    The Full Bug
    CalFB's Avatar
    Join Date
    08.12.13
    Location
    Oz
    Posts
    2,275
    Posts Per Day
    0.87
    Favorite VH Album

    Fair Warning
    Favorite VH Song

    Girl Gone Bad
    Last Online

    Today @ 02:56 AM
    Likes (Given)
    13
    Likes (Received)
    59
    Thanks (Given)
    697
    Thanks (Received)
    1856


    Premium Member
    Achievements:
    Padawan PraiserVeteranSupremely-LikedVHLinks Proud!15,000 VHL Life Points

    Default

    I saw Leon Todd's video on this subject earlier this month. I'm not an instagram person, but I checked out a few of the guys mentioned in the comments. It's a problem everywhere these days. Fake music, fake lips, fake tits...

    If you always search for bullshit on the Internet, all you ever read is bullshit

  3. Get The Show On The Road thanked for this post.
  4. #3
    Top Of The World

    Join Date
    01.30.04
    Posts
    3,603
    Posts Per Day
    0.59
    Last Online

    10.11.20 @ 02:55 PM
    Likes (Given)
    1
    Likes (Received)
    29
    Thanks (Given)
    67
    Thanks (Received)
    2997


    Premium Member
    Achievements:
    Padawan PraiserSupremely-LikedVHLinks Proud!25,000 VHL Life PointsKnight Of Da Roundtable

    Default

    Pre internet. Pre Instagram. Pre YouTube. Pre people being jerkoffs to get "likes"...

    Last edited by EJC; 11.25.19 at 03:07 PM.

  5. japeape, RRvh1 thanked for this post.
  6. #4
    Hang 'Em High
    japeape's Avatar
    Join Date
    02.05.15
    Posts
    16,912
    Posts Per Day
    8.10
    Favorite VH Album

    II & WACF
    Favorite VH Song

    HAIL & Simple Rhyme
    Last Online

    08.06.20 @ 09:11 PM
    Likes (Given)
    140
    Likes (Received)
    482
    Thanks (Given)
    8553
    Thanks (Received)
    13417

    Achievements:
    VeteranMaster PraiserSupremely-LikedElite Daily Poster100,000 VHL Life Points

    Default

    Fake tones, too.

    All this fractual crap, or whatever it is called, is cheating.

    Tech is so advanced now, that you can dial in anything, as well as messing with
    the audio speed, pitch, camera, etc.

    And youtube kind of ruined guitar for me.
    Everyone is Yngwie, fer chrissakes.
    Graver, Walking Ed, refugee from CVH & proud tone chaser...

  7. #5
    Hang 'Em High
    japeape's Avatar
    Join Date
    02.05.15
    Posts
    16,912
    Posts Per Day
    8.10
    Favorite VH Album

    II & WACF
    Favorite VH Song

    HAIL & Simple Rhyme
    Last Online

    08.06.20 @ 09:11 PM
    Likes (Given)
    140
    Likes (Received)
    482
    Thanks (Given)
    8553
    Thanks (Received)
    13417

    Achievements:
    VeteranMaster PraiserSupremely-LikedElite Daily Poster100,000 VHL Life Points

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EJC View Post
    Pre internet. Pre Instagram. Pre YouTube. Pre people being jerkoffs to get "likes"...

    I remember the days pre-Youtube, and getting those REH vids of Gilbert, Howe & Lynch.
    The Kotzen one, too.

    That shit was mind blowing, because we never got to see it up close, before.
    Graver, Walking Ed, refugee from CVH & proud tone chaser...

  8. #6
    Top Of The World

    Join Date
    01.30.04
    Posts
    3,603
    Posts Per Day
    0.59
    Last Online

    10.11.20 @ 02:55 PM
    Likes (Given)
    1
    Likes (Received)
    29
    Thanks (Given)
    67
    Thanks (Received)
    2997


    Premium Member
    Achievements:
    Padawan PraiserSupremely-LikedVHLinks Proud!25,000 VHL Life PointsKnight Of Da Roundtable

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    Fake tones, too.

    All this fractual crap, or whatever it is called, is cheating.

    Tech is so advanced now, that you can dial in anything, as well as messing with
    the audio speed, pitch, camera, etc.

    And youtube kind of ruined guitar for me.
    Everyone is Yngwie, fer chrissakes.
    It is extremely stupid. The bass player in my band is always wanting to record me doing some stupid fast solo shit to put on Instagram because I guess that is sort of a "thing" now...

    I delete them after he posts them. It has nothing to do with music at all. It's essentially a dick measuring contest. And to be honest, I'm not impressed by anybody that sits on a chair in front of a camera and can play fast, and re-record if they fuck up.

    It's a lot harder to hit your notes on stage under lights with stage volume, trying to hear yourself with a live crowd, knowing if you fuck up trying to do a sweep, you will look like an idiot. (and yes I learned that the hard way!)

  9. Get The Show On The Road thanked for this post.
  10. #7
    Emperor of VHLinks.com
    Brett's Avatar
    Join Date
    09.02.99
    Location
    So Cal
    Posts
    76,425
    Posts Per Day
    9.90
    Favorite VH Album

    Fair Warning
    Favorite VH Song

    Unchained
    Last Online

    Today @ 03:13 AM
    Likes (Given)
    189
    Likes (Received)
    1313
    Thanks (Given)
    2125
    Thanks (Received)
    14173

    Achievements:
    Pic PosterMaster PraiserSupremely-LikedElite Daily Poster350,000 VHL Life PointsThee King

    Default Are your favorite Instagram guitarists actually faking it?

    That’s why when I do videos I just record songs. I have no interest in jamming idiotic runs as fast as possible. Does that really impress people anymore?

    And yeah when you guys see me post those videos, I’ve done the guitar parts live, but of course I’ve done a couple takes of them usually to get them right. So I don’t know what the big deal is with these guys. Just keep doing takes until it’s right at whatever speed. Anyone can do that.
    Webmaster
    VHLinks.com - The Internet's Largest Van Halen Fan Forum
    http://www.vhlinks.com

    Check Out My YouTube Guitar Videos!
    http://www.youtube.com/banoneguitar
    Direct Link To Subscribe To My Channel!
    http://www.youtube.com/banoneguitar?sub_confirmation=1

    Join the VHLinks Facebook Group!



  11. Get The Show On The Road thanked for this post.
  12. #8
    Light Up The Sky
    Get The Show On The Road's Avatar
    Join Date
    01.05.12
    Age
    45
    Location
    6300 feet above sea level
    Posts
    20,027
    Posts Per Day
    6.23
    Favorite VH Album

    Van Halen
    Favorite VH Song

    I'm The One
    Last Online

    10.22.20 @ 07:55 PM
    Likes (Given)
    66
    Likes (Received)
    41
    Thanks (Given)
    29860
    Thanks (Received)
    18123


    Premium Member
    Achievements:
    VeteranMaster PraiserSupremely-LikedElite Daily PosterVHLinks Proud!150,000 VHL Life Points

    Default

    You can tell mine aren't fake! LOL!

    The only genre I really know is Van Halen.

  13. #9
    Top Of The World

    Join Date
    01.30.04
    Posts
    3,603
    Posts Per Day
    0.59
    Last Online

    10.11.20 @ 02:55 PM
    Likes (Given)
    1
    Likes (Received)
    29
    Thanks (Given)
    67
    Thanks (Received)
    2997


    Premium Member
    Achievements:
    Padawan PraiserSupremely-LikedVHLinks Proud!25,000 VHL Life PointsKnight Of Da Roundtable

    Default

    I get much more enjoyment out of watching Brett's vids and Show having a blast doing VH cover's with his kids than some zero personality dickhead thinking they are the shit because they can play fast. And yeah, that whole "look how fast I can play" goofiness thankfully died off in the early 90s... Not sure why it's coming back.

    If I didn't have zero internet video recording skills, I'd post covers too! Probably of Monkees songs though!

    It's silly enough if you can actually play. If you are going to these editing extremes to FAKE it, you probably need some sort of psychological help....

  14. Get The Show On The Road thanked for this post.
  15. #10
    Emperor of VHLinks.com
    Brett's Avatar
    Join Date
    09.02.99
    Location
    So Cal
    Posts
    76,425
    Posts Per Day
    9.90
    Favorite VH Album

    Fair Warning
    Favorite VH Song

    Unchained
    Last Online

    Today @ 03:13 AM
    Likes (Given)
    189
    Likes (Received)
    1313
    Thanks (Given)
    2125
    Thanks (Received)
    14173

    Achievements:
    Pic PosterMaster PraiserSupremely-LikedElite Daily Poster350,000 VHL Life PointsThee King

    Default Are your favorite Instagram guitarists actually faking it?

    I don’t find any interest in watching people just play fast. I watch two seconds and then click off of it. There is just nothing interesting about that.

    Now if these guys wanted to write some music and utilize their skill to post an actual song maybe I’d be interested to watch that. Maybe. As long as it’s not some wankfest.
    Webmaster
    VHLinks.com - The Internet's Largest Van Halen Fan Forum
    http://www.vhlinks.com

    Check Out My YouTube Guitar Videos!
    http://www.youtube.com/banoneguitar
    Direct Link To Subscribe To My Channel!
    http://www.youtube.com/banoneguitar?sub_confirmation=1

    Join the VHLinks Facebook Group!



  16. Get The Show On The Road thanked for this post.
  17. #11
    Light Up The Sky
    RRvh1's Avatar
    Join Date
    02.13.11
    Location
    Ontari-ari-ari-o!
    Posts
    21,411
    Posts Per Day
    6.05
    Favorite VH Album

    1984
    Favorite VH Song

    Panama
    Last Online

    03.24.20 @ 08:57 PM
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    3
    Thanks (Given)
    6592
    Thanks (Received)
    7455


    Premium Member

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EJC View Post
    Pre internet. Pre Instagram. Pre YouTube. Pre people being jerkoffs to get "likes"...

    Gilbert is a world class monster player!
    Even before that, I remember reading that some people thought Yngwie's demo tapes/first album bootlegs etc. were sped up... That is, until you saw him live!
    "There's too many people on this basketball that's floating around the sun, who are too afraid to allow themselves to FEEL" - Edward Van Halen
    "Van Halen was never about the singer..." - A very wise fan.
    "Embrace the past. Live in the moment but keep your eyes on the future, and keep on moving forward..." - Richie Sambora

  18. #12
    Big Bad Bill

    Join Date
    07.13.16
    Age
    57
    Location
    Illinois, USA
    Posts
    1,133
    Posts Per Day
    0.72
    Favorite VH Album

    Zero thru FW
    Favorite VH Song

    One Sky Control Movies
    Last Online

    10.19.20 @ 08:23 PM
    Likes (Given)
    28
    Likes (Received)
    17
    Thanks (Given)
    947
    Thanks (Received)
    801

    Achievements:
    Padawan PraiserVeteranWell-Liked5,000 VHL Life Points

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EJC View Post
    Pre internet. Pre Instagram. Pre YouTube. Pre people being jerkoffs to get "likes"...

    Wait, who did the drill motor noise thing first, Edward or Paul??


    BTW, I think I remember an old Coke commercial with Paul and the pick/drill attachment.
    Or, maybe I imagined it. IDK

  19. #13
    Light Up The Sky
    RRvh1's Avatar
    Join Date
    02.13.11
    Location
    Ontari-ari-ari-o!
    Posts
    21,411
    Posts Per Day
    6.05
    Favorite VH Album

    1984
    Favorite VH Song

    Panama
    Last Online

    03.24.20 @ 08:57 PM
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    3
    Thanks (Given)
    6592
    Thanks (Received)
    7455


    Premium Member

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by turnbuckle View Post
    Wait, who did the drill motor noise thing first, Edward or Paul??


    BTW, I think I remember an old Coke commercial with Paul and the pick/drill attachment.
    Or, maybe I imagined it. IDK
    Paul did the drill schtick with three plectrums attached for super duper trem picking speed, before Edward used the drill to amplify the hum of the motor through his pickups and amp.

    Steve Stevens did a similar sound effect to Eddie by using a toy 'ray gun' in the same manner, on a Billy Idol track.
    "There's too many people on this basketball that's floating around the sun, who are too afraid to allow themselves to FEEL" - Edward Van Halen
    "Van Halen was never about the singer..." - A very wise fan.
    "Embrace the past. Live in the moment but keep your eyes on the future, and keep on moving forward..." - Richie Sambora

  20. #14
    Big Bad Bill

    Join Date
    07.13.16
    Age
    57
    Location
    Illinois, USA
    Posts
    1,133
    Posts Per Day
    0.72
    Favorite VH Album

    Zero thru FW
    Favorite VH Song

    One Sky Control Movies
    Last Online

    10.19.20 @ 08:23 PM
    Likes (Given)
    28
    Likes (Received)
    17
    Thanks (Given)
    947
    Thanks (Received)
    801

    Achievements:
    Padawan PraiserVeteranWell-Liked5,000 VHL Life Points

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RRvh1 View Post
    Paul did the drill schtick with three plectrums attached for super duper trem picking speed, before Edward used the drill to amplify the hum of the motor through his pickups and amp.

    Steve Stevens did a similar sound effect to Eddie by using a toy 'ray gun' in the same manner, on a Billy Idol track.
    Yeah, and you can clearly see Paul doing that 'motor noise through the pick ups' deal, right there in that video.
    When is that Paul Gilbert video from?

  21. #15
    Light Up The Sky
    RRvh1's Avatar
    Join Date
    02.13.11
    Location
    Ontari-ari-ari-o!
    Posts
    21,411
    Posts Per Day
    6.05
    Favorite VH Album

    1984
    Favorite VH Song

    Panama
    Last Online

    03.24.20 @ 08:57 PM
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    3
    Thanks (Given)
    6592
    Thanks (Received)
    7455


    Premium Member

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by turnbuckle View Post
    Yeah, and you can clearly see Paul doing that 'motor noise through the pick ups' deal, right there in that video.
    When is that Paul Gilbert video from?
    I forgot about Paul doing the noise over his pickups, even though I saw him do it in one of his instructional videos. Either way, I believe his use of the drill predates Eddie's. I remember an article in GFTPM after the FUCK album came out, and the journalist mentioned that Ed used the drill and matched the cycle hum/tone in the Poundcake solo (he obviously used it in the intro as well) to get a musical sound, as opposed to just a 'gimmick' like Gilbert had done years prior...
    "There's too many people on this basketball that's floating around the sun, who are too afraid to allow themselves to FEEL" - Edward Van Halen
    "Van Halen was never about the singer..." - A very wise fan.
    "Embrace the past. Live in the moment but keep your eyes on the future, and keep on moving forward..." - Richie Sambora

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Ed on Instagram
    By PT 5150 in forum Main VH Discussion
    Replies: 270
    Last Post: 02.06.18, 08:42 AM
  2. Who are your top five favorite guitarists and why?
    By Jedi McFly in forum Guitar Room
    Replies: 96
    Last Post: 08.09.17, 05:46 AM
  3. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10.16.12, 12:41 PM
  4. The new sex issue and why more men are faking it –
    By voivod in forum VH Fans Meeting Place (Non-Music)
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 11.12.10, 08:14 PM
  5. Replies: 41
    Last Post: 03.16.07, 09:25 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •