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    "It's so lonely at the top because it's so crowded at the bottom" - Diamond David Lee Roth

    "The truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth" - Todd Wagner

    "Women and Children First ... The REAL Van Halen III"

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    House of Pain. I like Top Jimmy....it swings but it falls too much into a derivative type rock and roll song, ed's guitar work notwithstanding. House of Pain is pure VH.
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    I love them both, but I give the slight edge to Top Jimmy. The outro to House Of Pain is epic, though.

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    Top Jimmy. He's the king.
    Dave
    VH FOREVER!!!!!!!

    Stats:
    BECAME PSYCHO FAN: 12/91
    VAN HALEN W/DAVE: 9x
    VAN HALEN W/SAMMY: 8x
    VAN HALEN W/GARY: 5x
    MAMMOTH WVH: 1x
    CHICKENFOOT/THE CIRCLE: 10x
    DAVE SOLO: 14x
    SAMMY SOLO: 15x (W/MONTROSE 1x, @CABO WABO CANTINA 1x)
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    MET: Sammy 1x, Dave almost 1x, Gary 2x

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    Come on. You can do better than this.
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    Top Jimmy.

    One of VH's most underrated tunes.
    "The less I needed, the better I felt." ~ Charles Bukowski.

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    HOP. I LOVE the solo in that song.

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    Top Jimmy is a cool little jam, but House Of Pain is THE best example of brute force EVH. I also like Dave's brief scat around the solo...

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    It's a shame that we can't get House Of Pain as an isolated track; Audacity's vocal remover effects only go so far.
    "It wasn't Ed's playing that inspired me, it was his spirit. The playing was merely a manifestation of that spirit." - Speedway

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    Top Jimmy.

    I'm not sure how you can classify it as a "derivative rock & roll song," as it's way outta left field.

    The weird tunings & intro, the lyrics, and VH doing something different from what we think of
    as VH (Panama, Unchained).
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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    Top Jimmy.

    I'm not sure how you can classify it as a "derivative rock & roll song," as it's way outta left field.

    The weird tunings & intro, the lyrics, and VH doing something different from what we think of
    as VH (Panama, Unchained).
    For VH it might not be typical but neither is Happy Trails. I'm not saying that VH is derivative but song structure is a common one. A gazzalion songs of this style have been written since the 50s.

    One example:




    By contrast, House of Pain is like nothing else besides VH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlindtotheWorld View Post
    For VH it might not be typical but neither is Happy Trails. I'm not saying that VH is derivative but song structure is a common one. A gazzalion songs of this style have been written since the 50s.

    One example:




    By contrast, House of Pain is like nothing else besides VH.
    That sounds like a Chuck Berry/blues, deal.

    "Top Jimmy," feels more explorative & tricky to me, with Ed's little ad-libs
    and turnarounds (or whatever they're called).

    It's more like Jump Blues, but with a VH twist.

    I don't know, i thought it was a really interesting idea/tune, when i first heard it.

    And also the cool riff he jams underneath the amazing solo.
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    Musically, i love HOP (the intro, that fantastic outro, etc.), yet i think Dave
    kinda let the tune down.

    It was a rare thing, where i felt he ran out of ideas & just said: Ahh, this verse is fine.

    They have all they need for a great tune, but the verses just seem half baked.
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    Depends on the day. I love em both. Whether I'm the mood for a straight shot of VH (Pain) or something a little more eccentric (Jimmy) would determine my preference. Both are good songs to show the surprising variety of Van Halen to a neophyte or Jump fan. Two songs no one could have written but the dudes in early VH.

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    HOP

    For me it's the only song on 1984 that is not quite like the others... a dark horse.

 

 

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