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    SAMMY HAGAR Says DAVID LEE ROTH 'Refuses To Acknowledge' That HAGAR-Era VAN HALEN Was 'More Successful'

    July 5, 2019




    Sammy Hagar says that David Lee Roth "refuses to acknowledge" that VAN HALEN "was even more successful" during Sammy's tenure with the band.

    Hagar replaced David Lee Roth in VAN HALEN in 1985 and recorded four studio albums with the band — "5150", "OU812", "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" and "Balance" — all of which topped the U.S. chart. The highest-charting Roth-led VAN HALEN album was a No. 2, and it took until "1984" to achieve that. (2012's "A Different Kind Of Truth" also landed at No. 2.)

    Asked about his so-called "rivalry" with Roth, Hagar told Planet Rock magazine: "It wasn't even a blip on my radar.

    "I don't respect Dave's artistry, but I do think he's clever and a great showman and what he did with VAN HALEN in the early days was fantastic. VAN HALEN couldn't have made it without him.

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    "God bless Dave, but he refuses to acknowledge that VAN HALEN with me was even more successful than VAN HALEN with him, and that's very stupid of him. That'd be like me not acknowledging what he did for the band before I joined: that would be stupid, wouldn't it?"

    Hagar also spoke about the circumstances that led to the end of his first stint with the band.

    "We had eight years of [huge success], and then suddenly people in the band started changing… and it wasn't me and it wasn't Mike [Anthony, bass]," Hagar said.

    "The 'Balance' record was like pulling teeth, things got very dysfunctional by then. Drugs and alcohol and insecurity and bad management killed that band."

    You can read the full in-depth "Confessional" interview with Hagar in issue 15 of Planet Rock magazine, which is on sale now.

    Hagar told The Pulse Of Radio a while back that his problems with Eddie Van Halen began during the sessions for "Balance", Hagar's last album with the group. "Eddie needs somebody to make decisions and a leader, y'know?" he said. "He's not a natural born leader kind of guy. And his brother [Alex Van Halen] was always the leader before — or Roth was the leader before — and when Roth left, his brother and him bumped heads so much, when I walked in it was like, 'Well, what does Sam wanna do?' y'know? So it became kind of like, yeah, I was making all the decisions, so then on 'Balance', all of a sudden, he didn't like my decisions and it was like really weird."

    Hagar blasted his former bandmates in an interview in 2015, saying there was "no chemistry" between the members of the group's current lineup, including Roth. He said at the time: "They don't like each other. I mean, it's obvious. It's like a backup band with a guy out there in front. I bet they don't say five words to each other offstage."

    Hagar, Anthony, Alex and Eddie Van Halen last teamed up in 2004 for a U.S. summer tour. In exchange for taking part in the tour, Anthony reportedly had to agree to take a pay cut and sign away his rights to the band name and logo.

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    After DAVE respectfully describes the differences between the two eras on Rogan’s show, Sam says this. As for Dave’s artistry, Sam, this makes you look bitter and petty. You and plenty of other artists would give their left nut to create groundbreaking music like Dave & Eddie did.

    It doesn’t matter that you don’t respect his artistry, Eddie does. And he holds his “artistry” above yours.

    And did you need to dredge up Ed and Al again?

    Not to mention that your era was not more successful.
     "He has a swaggering retro machismo that will give hives to the Steinem cabal" -Camille Paglia on Donald Trump

    "But, fucking with Brook is like fucking with hot shit on and ax handle. You just don't get a grip"-track5

    "Make way for the bad guy"- Tony Montana

    'This hamburger don't need no helper"- David Lee Roth

    "I wish Bon Jovi would've given me a call before he recorded all of his hits, because the lyrics would've been smarter, the melodies would've been much more smashing, and they would've sold a lot fewer records." -David Lee Roth

    "My beef is people thinking Bon Jovi is good cuz they sold lots of records to housewives." -tango

    "But being number one doesn’t really mean jack fuck all. We sold twice as many records as other records that year (1984) that landed in the Number One position." ~Eddie Van Halen

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    Not a good look for Sammy.

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    Jeez Louise! Who cares anymore. Do we really need another thread like this that will have everybody at each others throats before the night is over?

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    The bottom line is that without Dave's "artistry", there likely wouldn't have been a Van Halen for Sammy to join in 1985.
    "It's so lonely at the top because it's so crowded at the bottom" - Diamond David Lee Roth

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    Does anyone other than the couple dozen people on here care about this anymore?
    Dealing with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rchop84 View Post
    Does anyone other than the couple dozen people on here care about this anymore?
    Blabbermouth.
     "He has a swaggering retro machismo that will give hives to the Steinem cabal" -Camille Paglia on Donald Trump

    "But, fucking with Brook is like fucking with hot shit on and ax handle. You just don't get a grip"-track5

    "Make way for the bad guy"- Tony Montana

    'This hamburger don't need no helper"- David Lee Roth

    "I wish Bon Jovi would've given me a call before he recorded all of his hits, because the lyrics would've been smarter, the melodies would've been much more smashing, and they would've sold a lot fewer records." -David Lee Roth

    "My beef is people thinking Bon Jovi is good cuz they sold lots of records to housewives." -tango

    "But being number one doesn’t really mean jack fuck all. We sold twice as many records as other records that year (1984) that landed in the Number One position." ~Eddie Van Halen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 47 View Post
    Jeez Louise! Who cares anymore. Do we really need another thread like this that will have everybody at each others throats before the night is over?
    Didn’t fit anywhere else.
     "He has a swaggering retro machismo that will give hives to the Steinem cabal" -Camille Paglia on Donald Trump

    "But, fucking with Brook is like fucking with hot shit on and ax handle. You just don't get a grip"-track5

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    "I wish Bon Jovi would've given me a call before he recorded all of his hits, because the lyrics would've been smarter, the melodies would've been much more smashing, and they would've sold a lot fewer records." -David Lee Roth

    "My beef is people thinking Bon Jovi is good cuz they sold lots of records to housewives." -tango

    "But being number one doesn’t really mean jack fuck all. We sold twice as many records as other records that year (1984) that landed in the Number One position." ~Eddie Van Halen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 47 View Post
    Jeez Louise! Who cares anymore. Do we really need another thread like this that will have everybody at each others throats before the night is over?
    Huh. But of course its ok for there to be numbers of threads trashing Dave at every turn. And this is Sam in his own words, being a bitter douche who indeed cant let it go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNGLE DRUMMER View Post
    Huh. But of course its ok for there to be numbers of threads trashing Dave at every turn. And this is Sam in his own words, being a bitter douche who indeed cant let it go.
    No it's not.

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    More Dave vs. Sam?

    Pass.

    Yawn.

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    The music with Sammy in Van Halen has more sentimental meaning to me overall, even though 1984 and Panama, are my top picks and always have been. Totally due to Eddie's music, though.

    Bottom line is that it's more successful to ME, has inspired ME more, and is part of MY DNA.

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    Sammy just cant stop lying. Would love for Dave to just destroy him on his YouTube show

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    Guys I can’t take another thread of this sorry. I really can’t. You can read the story and argue about it in one of the other 1000 Dave vs. Sam threads. I’m closing this one. I just don’t want to read the arguing and personal attacks that are coming.
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