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06.12.19, 12:09 PM #1
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El cheapo way to get "Van Hagar" Detune effect (harmonizer wet dry wet setup)
Much time has passed since the discussion on the topic, so let's go back:
How to get this chorus-y tone that EVH got with his H949 Harmonizer? What are your experiences with:
Digitech Luxe
Mooer Pitch Box
MXR Stereo Chorus
According to Jeff Fiorentino: "Though not really a Van Halen effect as far as one that everyone who's into Van Halen has, I've found through my own tinkering that the MXR Stereo Chorus is phenomenal for dialing in an amazing mid and late era VH tone. It's a great substitute for the expensive harmonizer as well. This is the ideal Chorus effect for the Van Hagar era sound and it doesn't break the bank. Like the Phase 90 I also recommend running the stereo Chorus in the FX Loop of your amp. But again to each his own, what works for me and my specific guitar and amp setup may not be ideal for your setup, so try both ways and figure out what works best for you. Either way the settings below are a great guideline Chorus setting for the Van Halen tone, provided your amp EQ is set properly and your guitar is setup properly. (see earlier sections of this page for tips)
Standard setting (basic rule of thumb guideline only!! You'll need to tweak based on your setup):
Bass = 40%
Treble = 60%
Intensity = 25% to 80% - depends, for sounds like on OU812, a 60%-80% setting is suggested.
Width = 25% to 60% - I keep the Width setting the same or close to the Intensity setting, but no higher than 60%
Rate = 10% to 25% max."
http://jfrocksguitarlessons.com/van-halen-brownsound/
TC Electronic Brainwaves
OK, this is the new one and the question is: can it play Van Halen? TC claims that "BRAINWAVES also nails the squeaky clean, watery ‘80s tones we all know and love. Or slap on some dirt and dial up a shallow detune for the secret thickening agent from Van Halen’s post-1984 tone". However, TC is well known for claiming things that are not true (e.g. tap tempo in Flashback delay II).
Oh, and what about Quintessence Harmony?
Quintessence Harmony can absolutely be used as a detuner.
Check out the “Detune” templates in the TonePrint editor (UnisonicMASH), where the harmonizer is set to unison mode. This means that the two voices are on same interval but slightly detuned.)
This is done by setting tonebend intervals for the two harmony voices to 1 halftone / -1 halftone and then mapping MASH to control tonebend percent.
Now if you set TP max/MASH max value to 100%, it will bend a full halftone up/down. However, by setting it at 30%, you just bend a couple of cents and get great “static” chorus type sounds. You can then change the degree of detuning with the MASH switch.
If you want a static detune, just set the tonebend percent parameter to a low value.
Here are the parameter settings for the dynamic detune settings, where you use the MASH switch to set amount of detune and revert back to a clean sound when MASH is released.
If you want it to be static, just set the two Tonebend percent Parameters to 5-10% or change the “mash Default” curve Modifier value to same values.
https://kb.musictribe.com/musickb/vi...d-as-a-detuner
What are your thoughts, settings, etc.?Last edited by marcin; 06.12.19 at 12:15 PM.
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Sammy Hagar made Van Halen even better. Deal with it.
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06.12.19, 12:40 PM #2
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I wouldn't mind trying out the Digitech Brainwaves pedal, but it's pink.
I have the Luxe and couldn't find a setting on it I didn't think was just total tone-kill.
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06.13.19, 08:07 AM
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While you can definitely approximate it with a static chorus, in my opinion, I would recommend getting an H9 or a Pitchfactor.
As a cheaper option, I would suggest a Boss PS-6 Harmonist. 5150Rob here has gotten great sounds with one.
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This.
The PS6 has given me more than enough on Van Hagar tones, absolutely beautiful plugging my Music Man into my 5150 combo with the PS6 in the loop. IMO it's the closest you can get without a W/D/W.
Amp wise the Peavey combo's double speakers almost mimic a stereo effect, at least from my experience.
Go for the PS6
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