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    The UK is about to make watching porn more difficult for kids. Could the US do the same?

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    Assessing pornographic material in the United Kingdom is about to becoming increasingly difficult after legislators approved a provision requiring websites that host pornographic material to verify the age of users.

    What are the details?

    Beginning next month, the UK will require any website hosting pornography to verify the age of its users, according to The Metro. This will ensure that people deemed too young to view the material — children younger than 18 — are not accessing the smut by falsely claiming age 18 or older.

    Mainstream pornography websites will reportedly use an online age verification system called AgeID. James Clark, a spokesman for AgeID, told The Metro that prospective users will need to submit ample documentation to AgeID — such as a passport or other government-issued ID — before accessing the pornographic website.

    Once verified, the users will be able to access pornography on all smut websites using AgeID.

    Not all pornography websites will use AgeID, and there are other ways users will be able to verify their age, such as through the purchase of vouchers and other special IDs.

    The UK released the guidelines last year after passing the Digital Economy Act in 2017. Failure to comply with the new rules will result in substantial fines and website blocks by UK internet service providers.

    The writer's perspective: Why the US needs similar laws

    Although scientists are just discovering the impacts of long-term pornography usage, research has already proved fruitful. In fact, scientists have discovered evidence showing that the human brain responds to pornography in the same manner it does chemical substances such as cocaine.

    With the neurological response comes the cycle of addiction. And in the same way an addict develops a tolerance — the "bump" that previously got them high no longer does the job, now they need a line or two — pornography usage increases over time and the material consumed devolves from that which, at a cursory level, reflects natural human relationships to material that simulates violence, rape, and wholly unnatural sex acts.

    The earlier this cycle begins in a young person's life, the earlier it descends into an addiction with far-reaching ramifications, most often surfacing as the degradation of humans — longtime pornography users view other humans as mere objects whose purpose is to satisfy their sexual urges — but sometimes even full-blown violence.

    Though these impacts are nearly universal among pornography users, when young people are introduced to this pervasive world, their developing neurotransmitters are being wired in such a way that it will become much more difficult in the future to break their addiction to pornography and recover from long-term use.

    If physically blocking young people from accessing pornography through mandatory age verification systems is the mechanism that prevents them from beginning of the cycle of addiction to vital stages of cognitive development, then by all means, let's implement similar provisions here in the U.S.




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    "Mainstream pornography websites will reportedly use an online age verification system called AgeID. James Clark, a spokesman for AgeID, told The Metro that prospective users will need to submit ample documentation to AgeID — such as a passport or other government-issued ID — before accessing the pornographic website.

    Once verified, the users will be able to access pornography on all smut websites using AgeID.

    Not all pornography websites will use AgeID, and there are other ways users will be able to verify their age, such as through the purchase of vouchers and other special IDs."

    Yeah, no way that sort of information harvesting can't be abused... or circumvented.

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    I'm fine with this, but as TB says, there will be a million ways to get around it. If you can go on the Silk Road and get heroin delivered to your mailbox, you can circumvent AGEID.
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    So they want people to put their names to the stuff they watch? It's easy to see how that would get abused, but then again, people having been shopping at smut shops and using their credit cards for subscriptions for years, so maybe it won't make a difference.
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    The other thing I find interesting is that, according to the article, watching this stuff is terrible for people and even worse for teens.

    We've had a full generation of people grow up on free porn at this point. Is society more degenerative now than it has been in the past? Certainly there are aspects that have gotten worse, but can any of it be attributed to the free access to pornography?

    Morality aside, I get the sentiment behind what they are saying and I can even accept the science behind their point, but I guess what I'm saying is: if free porn was as harmful to everyone as they make it sound, wouldn't our relationships across society already be showing significant side effects today?
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    The day that children were handed smartphones without society even batting an eye could be considered the day society abandoned its sons and daughters. Being exposed to that stuff - especially at such a young age - promises those kids a lifetime of personal loneliness and disordered and disfunctional relationships. Very difficult to recover from once exposed to it over time, especially as children when their brains are still being wired. Yeah, it's like heroin to the brain, and it's never enough. Terribly destructive. Very sad.
    Government issued porn passes (and user databases) are no remedy, UK. T.B.'s spot on w his comment regarding that.
    Good parenting is our best defense, but parents do have so much working against them in the battle to keep that garbage away from their kids. It's tough today raising healthy children in this virtual Sodom and Gommorah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    The other thing I find interesting is that, according to the article, watching this stuff is terrible for people and even worse for teens.

    We've had a full generation of people grow up on free porn at this point. Is society more degenerative now than it has been in the past? Certainly there are aspects that have gotten worse, but can any of it be attributed to the free access to pornography?

    Morality aside, I get the sentiment behind what they are saying and I can even accept the science behind their point, but I guess what I'm saying is: if free porn was as harmful to everyone as they make it sound, wouldn't our relationships across society already be showing significant side effects today?

    Dude, take a look at the charges these kids are picking up at your local juvenile court . Guaranteed that you’ll change your mind.
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    This doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Not sure how enforceable it is but i dont mind the idea.

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    This is the same as all the other times would-be censors said, "Yeah, but this time it's different." The same scares happened over adult magazines, HBO and Cinemax, home video, blu ray, etc.

    We've studied this over time, going back to Nixon, through Reagan, and more recently. All have found that repression is worse than exposure. When we start labeling people as addicts, it puts the focus on the film/depictions and not the other factors in a kid's life, which is what we now know how addiction works--it's about one's surroundings when it comes to risk factors. But there are all kinds of other issues like sex education, impulse control, moral influences, sex health education, and on and on.

    To me, the larger problem is criminalizing kids, 17 year olds as convicted sex offenders because they are sexting with each other.

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    Sexting is the least of the worries associated with young kids and pornography.

    And remember we’re not talking Playboy magazine anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    Dude, take a look at the charges these kids are picking up at your local juvenile court . Guaranteed that you’ll change your mind.
    I'm sure I'd be disheartened to see what our youth are getting caught doing, but do the stats back up that things have gotten worse? Crime is basically at an all-time low these days so it's hard to draw a connection there. I'm more interested in the broken relationships aspect. Certainly divorce has risen over the last few decades, and there's at least a correlation to a more open sexual culture. But there's also been drastic changes in how religious people are, the stigmas of single parenting, etc. that could equally impact it.

    I guess what I'm saying is that there probably isn't a male in high school that hasn't seen a picture/video of a naked woman, and chances are they have open access to this stuff. Given that's been the case for at least the last, what, 18 years, shouldn't there be widespread effects directly attributable to its exposure on young minds?

    I'm keeping an open mind to it, believe me, because I do think it can cause harm in individual relationships, but I don't feel like we're seeing the far reaching effects implied by the OP article. I'm open to changing my mind, though, as I wouldn't for a second encourage this type of stuff on people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    Sexting is the least of the worries associated with young kids and pornography.

    And remember we’re not talking Playboy magazine anymore.
    I don't know man. I think it's far worse having a naked picture of your 16 year old daughter out there floating around because she was trying to impress her boyfriend than an underground bdsm scene flourishing, you know what I mean? That never goes away now. Just the fact that there is revenge porn is a ridiculous concept we never had to worry about when we were kids. I think that has a far worse effect on our kids than what's essentially the 21st century version of finding smut magazines in your uncle's basement.

    Again, though, I'm certainly not advocating the free distribution of it for multiple reasons (one being the morality of it), but I think the effects might be overstated on society.
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    It is when they are being arrested for child pornography. It's actually not unusual. One story I can pull from memory is 18-yr old boy who, at 17, sexted his girlfriend, also under age. He turned 18, someone found out, and he is now a sex offender for having a picture of himself on his own phone. Labeling him for ever is nonsense, and it also doesn't help databases where someone like him shows up on a registry next to a habitual child molester.

    Again, going back 50 years or more, there have always been scares about adult entertainment and kids. And the argument every time there is a new medium is "It's different this time." And every single time it has been shown to be unfounded. The internet has been around since the early-to-mid 1990s. Someone who had the internet at birth will turn 30 in the next couple years. AS far as I know, there is no evidence linking any of this to millennials being any worse off when it comes to sexual health and relationships than any other generation. Not just that, but we have science on this going back 40 or 50 years, all of it saying the fears are completely unfounded. Family background--those other external factors--are much better indicators of the stuff people are afraid of than exposure to pornography is.

    In fact, according to the CDC, teens are having sex later in life, are more likely to have safe sex than any previous generations, and as the rise of the internet occurred, teen pregnancy has reached its lowest levels in multiple decades. Marriage rates are still high. I think this is the kind of social stuff that gets in the way of things people actually care about, like the economy and health care.
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    ^ Seperate issues.
    Having to register as a sex offender for urinating in public is messed up too, for example. Yes, it's messed up criminalizing sexting too, but that's also unrelated to children having open access and consuming hardcore pornography on the internet. Apples to oranges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wruff_ajax View Post
    ^ Seperate issues.
    Having to register as a sex offender for urinating in public is messed up too, for example. Yes, it's messed up criminalizing sexting too, but that's also unrelated to children having open access and consuming hardcore pornography on the internet. Apples to oranges.
    But what I am saying is that there is a lot of science showing exposure isn't a problem. And since teen pregnancy is down, safe sex is up, teens are waiting to have sex, then perhaps there are other issues with them and sexual health that we should be looking at. I'm proposing what I think is an actual problem we could do something about.

 

 

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