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02.09.19, 04:22 PM #1
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Building a guitar......
Is it as easy as ordering your parts and just screwing it all together or is there craftmanship required?
If you're getting bodies and necks from different places how do you know they're going to fit together?
How do you know if the body is going to be routed correctly for the trem you want?
Can you get a quality guitar for considerable saving on the cost of buying a pre-assembled brand one?
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02.09.19, 04:41 PM #2
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Building a guitar......
BC you’ve never built a guitar before? I’m surprised.
I mean yeah it’s pretty much as simple as buying the parts and screwing them all together. You’ll probably have to do some easy drilling of holes too. You also have to be able to set up your guitar or else you’ll have to take it to a pro and that will cost a bit of money, but most of us have figured out how to set up our guitars pretty easily. I have never needed to take mine to be set up.
I just always buy my body and necks from the same place so I know they’ll fit, and you can choose the routing you want for the trem before you buy. All that stuff is done for you man. But most of the time the sizes are pretty standard so you’ll be able to fit bodies and necks together even if they aren’t from the same place.
If you know what you like to play and how you want to sound then yeah it’s a good route to go because it does save money and you get what you want. And absolutely you do get a quality product if you buy from a good place.
Of course I say that and I just bought a brand new guitar last week for the first time in years. Haha.Webmaster
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Sometimes you have to shave the pocket to get the neck to fit. Maybe the neck finish is to thick or the neck pocket is to small.
Also, it sucks when you have tremolo bushes or post holes that don’t align with the neck pocket. Your only solution is to hack the neck pocket and it not only looks bad, you lose tone.
The last few bodies that I bought, I bought without having the bushes or post holes drilled. I drilled them after attaching the neck in mock-up.
Direct mounting pickups is always fun. A small trim router is your best friend unless you have to add wood.
Don’t expect your first guitar to be perfect. If you’re cool with that it’s fun and a great learning experience.
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Building a guitar......
Most partscasters are Fender style, and this neck pockets and such are built to Fender spec. You’ll have no problem mating a Warmoth/Fender/Musikraft/KNE/Locke/etc body. There are little things to look out for like differences between Strat and Tele neck heels (you can put a Strat neck on a Tele, but you can’t always put a Tele neck on a Strat.
Like Brett said - as long as you get the setup right you can get a hell of a value out of building a guitar. My two main Super Strats are partscasters that cost less than $1k each. But with high end pickups, stainless frets, exotic neck woods, and Floyds the only thing comparable might be a Suhr - and those are like 2.5x the price!
Here are some Partscasters I’ve put together...
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Yeah, I've never built my own – too scared it would go wrong as Lad mentioned. TBH I've always felt stupid, like the kid who's too afraid to jump in the pool whilst everyone else has fun, but didn't want to risk burning hundreds of pounds. I'm also short on patience when it comes to learning things I'm not naturally drawn to, like routing differences and screw placement, and struggle to focus and take it all in. It's the same reason why I'm also a recording neophyte.
I've had a quick scan over at Warmouth and BYO. BYO's Lunatic option (EVH Kramer clone) is very, very cheap. $184 for a mahogany body and every other part required to build a guitar Sure, the rest of the materials are probably naff and you can upgrade them at extra cost but $184 still gets you a solid slab of mahogany whereas Warmouth are wanting $220 for a body alone – and they charge extra for all your routing and contouring options - and up to $550 for a ready-to-ship body. So why the disparity in price?
Even just concocting my own from scratch from Warmouth – without paying for a pre-made body – I'm already $300+ in the hole for a body and I've still got the rest to buy. Contrast this to your average off-the-shelf Charvel San Dimas and it's not looking cost effective. Part of me says the Lunatic is too cheap to be any good but on the other hand, wood is wood and maybe Warmouth are trading off their rep so already, right at the start, I'm worried about making a mistake. I'm also not comfortable buying an unpainted guitar because as much as I'm drawn to self-expression like all Eddie fans, I wouldn't trust myself to run with scissors let alone paint a pro finish.
BYO Lunatic
http://www.byoguitar.com/Guitars/Ele...O-Lunatic.aspx
Warmouth Soloist (BYO)
http://www.warmoth.com/Guitar/Bodies...r.aspx?style=8
Warmouth Soloist ready-made
http://www.warmoth.com/Pages/Classic...?Body=2&Type=8
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02.10.19, 05:50 AM
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Jedi, it's your latest Partscaster thread that got me interested again. Your guitars look great but it's your explanation of how and why you made your choices that threw me off and I slipped away again.
Brett says if you know what you like to play it's easy but I still can't decide as I like a variety of superstrats - Charvels, Hamers, Ibanez and TBH, I don't even know the answer on some options. Do I want wood-mounted PU? Yeah, I guess so, for no other reason than they look cool. Angled headstock? Uhhh, dunn0. 12" Ibanez radius or 16" Jackson? Pass. What Floyd? Any decent one I can get hold of, from an OFR to Gotoh to FRT-1000 to Ping so no I can't answer Warmouth's questions on what type of trem routing I want. Contours and cutaways? Dunno. Side jack options? Don't care but am I missing something in not caring? Mounting holes? Never gave them a thought. Radius? Again, pass, I've played various-sized superstrats. And just how big do I want my jumbo frets, string nut, tuner holes and what type of tuning pegs? I've never cared for such anal-issues. I want the Hamer upside down side jack but no one seems to sell them or offer the routing options. Hell, ,I can't even tell you if I want a finished neck let alone what type of finish!
It seems Warmouth only have Strat, Tele and pseudo-Jackson necks so where did you get your Kramer neck and how did you know it would fit? What if I want a neck I've seen on eBay but don't know the manufacturer? Plus Warmouth's Jacksons come with this annoying pointy bit on the underside for some reason. I guess it's easy enough to shave down but a) I don't have a wood plane and b) I'd probably hack the headstock up.
So you can see how lost I am and how off-putting it is. Another thing that is confusing, most Warmouth-based guitars tend to have no name on the headstock yet I've seen a video where the guy gets a mean-looking all-black Strat headstock with the Fender logo so not sure what happened there but I know I'd love a HM Strat logo neck.
Ultimately I'd like a Soloist Superstrat but would be happy with an EVH San Dimas to start with if it's easier and the BYO with OFR and SD pickups is coming in at a completed cost of just a Warmouth body!
Maybe building and painting your own is really easy but I'm not ready to drop $1000 to find out if I'm right or not.
PS: how good would you rate your EVH Wolfgang compared to the official product?
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Building a guitar......
Dude if you can’t make a decision on any of those things then yes I mean maybe building a guitar is not for you. You need to know a little bit what you like to play and just buy those parts. You have to be willing to invest a little bit to learn. At some point if you want to do this you’re gonna have to just jump in with a little faith. It’s not the hardest thing in the world to do you just have to take your time. If you lose patience and you rush then yeah you’re gonna fuck it up.
Those cheap kids come with cheap hardware and lower grade woods. Actually if you’re so worried about spending the money maybe it’s worth it to buy one just so you can see if you can really build it and then you can get a nicer stuff next time. Warmoth makes high-end parts with great quality that’s why it’s expensive. Plus they are licensed by Fender so they can make Strat necks, etc. I had a Warmoth body with a KNE neck and had no fitment issue. It was a beautiful guitar. I sold it because I just didn’t play it enough.
I bought this body from Warmoth, I had all the holes and everything pre-drilled by them. I got a neck I really like from KNE. He drilled standard Strat holes and and I just slapped them together and put all the parts on. Yes I had to drill holes for the tuning pegs, retainer bar, and for the strap buttons, but that isn’t very hard. And some guitars I’ve drilled holes for volume pots.
And this was the first guitar I built for myself back in 2006 or so and had no issues. After that I felt I could handle doing the striped stuff and I’ve yet to fuck one of those up either.
I was bored with one of my Partscasters recently and just decided to turn it into Dave Murray-inspired Strat. It was really easy.
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