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    hello all,

    anyone who is invested heavily in the stock market knows that we are overdue for a bear market very soon. it may have started today. stay in and ride the wave ?? or sell the hell out of your stuff til it blows over ??

    i appreciate your thought's in advance. trying to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hack View Post
    hello all,

    anyone who is invested heavily in the stock market knows that we are overdue for a bear market very soon. it may have started today. stay in and ride the wave ?? or sell the hell out of your stuff til it blows over ??

    i appreciate your thought's in advance. trying to learn.
    As a long time investor, unless you are close to retirement, always stay. If you have planned properly and set your stocks up with dividend reinvestment, while the market struggled you’ll be gaining shares at a lower price. History as shown that eventually it always rebounds. That said, I always sit on a decent amount of cash fir when there is s market correction as that’s the time to buy.
    The people that panic and sell are novice investors, the stock market is a marathon and not a race. When invested in stocks with strong dividends, on average a portfolio will gain 60-80% every ten years.
    I started with 10k 12 years ago, and let’s just say from that I’ve managed a down payment for my home, another 30k in home improvements, and still grown the portfolio 10 fold, not to mention my IRA from a former 401k that has more than doubled in the last five years. The market will reward the patient mind


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    You will likely get another 12-24mos. Of an ok market. I tend towards 12. The market while at higher levels us actually cheaper now than it was a year ago due to earnings exceeding expectations combined w a fair amount of sugar still in corporate veins. If the Fed would sell off more 10 and 20 year bonds off their balance sheet actively rather than allowing them to roll off it would also be beneficial in pushing the long end of the yield curve up and decreasing the likelihood of it inverting. That is good for equities but dicey political as it puts pressure on Congress to have more fiscal discipline since debt service will be more expensive.

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    thank you guy's.

    my adviser is adamant that i ride through it. just wondering what other's thought.
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    There is always the chance it keeps going down, but I have learned the lesson the hard way and lost a lot of money doing it...hang in.

    There is strategic selling of dogs that can be a part of your year end tax planning, and then there is closing out your portfolio. The last quarter of the year is usually a bumpy ride anyway for quite a few reasons.

    The old saying is very true...pros buy at the bottom, amateurs sell at the bottom. There are graphs showing where institutional money is going in comparison to joe blow investor's, and it is funny (and sad) to see how much of the time they are moving in the opposite directions.

    When Warren Buffet is buying, you and I are selling, and vice versa.

    One's a gazillionaire, and at least for me, I'm just a working stiff.
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    History of the market since the great depression is a recession every 8-10 yrs. Now I believe that the last recession now called the great recession which started in 2007-2008 was really a depression that basically the US governmment covered minus Lehman Brothers and mergers and aquisitions etc.

    If I'm right and I am not a pro I feel that this recovery and bull run has more legs to it than normal recovery periods do. But the cycle will eventually repeat. If I was young and had time I would not get in now and if I was into stocks say from 2008 I would sell and pay the piper. If your in an IRA/401K you can sell some and not pay the piper then take advantage of some current better than zero money market rates and wait until the next bottom.

    It's impossible to call a market but depending where you are in life you can take advantage of cycles. I personally made a lot in the last recession getting in at the bottom and repositioned when I felt I had made a decent profit. But that was not my first recession as an investor and I was prepared last time. Greed is also your worst enemy. But the old sell high buy low is still the overall mantra. I also do not do short selling but the same applies.
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    i guess Rodney was right after all !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hack View Post
    hello all,

    anyone who is invested heavily in the stock market knows that we are overdue for a bear market very soon. it may have started today. stay in and ride the wave ?? or sell the hell out of your stuff til it blows over ??

    i appreciate your thought's in advance. trying to learn.
    It's 200 points. Just noise.

    If you're near retirement or need the cash short term then this might be a good time to start exiting the market some, but trying to time the market is not something is likely to work out long term. Buy the same amount each week/month and look at your statements annually unless something major has changed in your life is my advice.

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    I remember the big market scare in 2007. So many at work were panicking and selling their 401ks. Even then I knew it was a bad move. If the market was falling....isn't that when you buy? You want to get as much stock as you can for the lowest price. Later when the market goes up (as it always does) then you made out like a bandit. All that cheap stock you got was worth even more.

    So my 401k has tripled since then while those who sold have nothing. Sad. Some of them bought cars that are now on the junk pile.

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    Damn! 401 k getting a haircut today. DJI down 760 points, almost a 3% hit so far......
    2018, the year of the Boomerang

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hired Gun View Post
    Damn! 401 k getting a haircut today. DJI down 760 points, almost a 3% hit so far......
    yup tough day. Down over 800 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    yup tough day. Down over 800 points.
    I gave some thought last week to "Parking" most in a stable asset fund, but didn't. Not retiring for many years, so will let it ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hired Gun View Post
    I gave some thought last week to "Parking" most in a stable asset fund, but didn't. Not retiring for many years, so will let it ride.
    My dad pulled his money out last month and is going to park it in a money market account I think. He's 73.

    I'm 43 and pulling for a crash so I can buy more at a discounted price...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpospoke View Post
    I remember the big market scare in 2007. So many at work were panicking and selling their 401ks. Even then I knew it was a bad move. If the market was falling....isn't that when you buy? You want to get as much stock as you can for the lowest price. Later when the market goes up (as it always does) then you made out like a bandit. All that cheap stock you got was worth even more.

    So my 401k has tripled since then while those who sold have nothing. Sad. Some of them bought cars that are now on the junk pile.
    A lot of my dads friends panicked and bailed.

    He doubled down and is now a wealthy man. Like I told Hired Gun now that he's 73 he decided it was time to get out now that he's sitting on 7 figures. I think I agree with him there.
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