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    Russia - the old enemy, heavily-depleted but still a seismic force - or China, a cocky upstart but one flooded with money and will only get stronger and wiser.

    Both are huge nations, practically locked down and under total control by undemocratic rulers, and whose people can be drafted up if it's so decreed (and there won't be any option not to be drafted).

    And do you see either as being realistic contenders to the ridiculous might (and funding) of the US military.
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    Midgets. There’s supposedly millions of them and how often do you see them?

    Think about that one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    Midgets. There’s supposedly millions of them and how often do you see them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlofeldsCat View Post
    Russia - the old enemy, heavily-depleted but still a seismic force - or China, a cocky upstart but one flooded with money and will only get stronger and wiser.

    Both are huge nations, practically locked down and under total control by undemocratic rulers, and whose people can be drafted up if it's so decreed (and there won't be any option not to be drafted).

    And do you see either as being realistic contenders to the ridiculous might (and funding) of the US military.
    China. Russia is too weak economically to get its head out its own ass. They have been more or less sidelined to be a political gnat who needlessly complicates the world order under the impression that they are relevant again. Militarily and economically they can't compete with the US, but they can still make our lives miserable if they want to.

    China, however, has vast economic resources at their disposal in the form of human capital. They have a billion people and a fast growing military. Their espionage into everything the US does has allowed them to make up ground significantly faster than if they did it on their own, and that includes both military and industrial espionage.

    However, that being said, I think the biggest risk facing the US is ourselves. If we flush our economic superiority down the toilet by pursuing proven strategies that will inevitably lead to economic ruin, then it doesn't matter what those other countries are doing. If we lose sight of what made us great in the first place we're doomed to fall like all of the other great Empires of history who thought they were too big to fail.
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    There was Korea but have we ever faced the Chinese toe to toe in terms of combat?

    How do we strategize for war when they're an unknown in that respect? It's a scary thing to think about a one on one conflict with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    There was Korea but have we ever faced the Chinese toe to toe in terms of combat?

    How do we strategize for war when they're an unknown in that respect? It's a scary thing to think about a one on one conflict with them.
    A war with either China or Russia wouldn't be conventional anyway. I don't worry about 400 million potential soldiers, because the war (and the world) will be finished long before it gets to that level.

    What I do worry about is their economic might that is inevitably coming that will force the US to buckle to their might, much the same way we do to the world now. We are generally benevolent in that regard. They will not be.
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    Our greatest enemy today comes from within. It is not China or Russia.
    It is those who subvert our pillars of power from within, who openly aim, for example, to overthrow this country's duly elected President, and who are constantly at work eroding the foundations and principles which made this country so exceptional.
    It is so strange to me that such a large swath of our population today has been indoctrinated to believe that destroying American principles and sovereignty is their progressive/socialist/communist duty. Brainwashed globalist progressive pieces of shit. They are the greatest threat today to America's future standing as a free and sovereign nation. This nation's greatest enemy comes from within and operate in plain sight; within our halls of congress, throughout most mainstream media, throughout our universities from the professors whose primary concern is indoctrinating your children into their Marxist/communist ideologies, etc.. etc..
    America's greatest enemies today come from within and operate in plain sight.
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    Neither, the technological advantage is so vast both can be irritants but not really military threats, plus once you can destroy the world the magnitudes become less relevant. Rogue groups with that ability are more threatening than sovereign states.

    We should fear policy mistakes by ourselves. Unforced errors are often the most painful. China has issues as they use economic growth as a form of domestic security. Their growth is steadily declining but due to massive debt they simply lack the ability stimulate as they once did. Also with the rise of productivity in developed worlds combined with their rapid wage inflation they are becoming less competitive economically. As economies mature they must compete on productivity rather than labor arbitrage, China has never done this successfully. That is worrisome for them in regard to maintaining their own domestic security. A concern is if domestic strife hits they may want to lash outward as a unifier. Russia, is essentially a terrorist regime in regard to operations. You deal with that w human intelligence, technology, and isolation. Their economy is a disaster and any shortages occur it will trigger unrest fast. Neither should you fear, as fear often creates unforced errors. Russia focusses on creating domestic division here as their own yard is too messy for them to clean or do anything hence try and get us to make a policy mistake. Putin is very good at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    A war with either China or Russia wouldn't be conventional anyway. I don't worry about 400 million potential soldiers, because the war (and the world) will be finished long before it gets to that level.

    What I do worry about is their economic might that is inevitably coming that will force the US to buckle to their might, much the same way we do to the world now. We are generally benevolent in that regard. They will not be.
    That's why it's great to have Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    Midgets. There’s supposedly millions of them and how often do you see them?

    Think about that one.
    Start looking down more often... you'll see them.

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    We're not going to destroy the world. We're not going to use nukes. Not us, China, or Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAD-1972 View Post
    Mini Paul can out sing big Paul now

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    Yes, we're not going to trench warfare with China but there would be hand to hand combat firefights etc. What kind of fighters would they be up close?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    Yes, we're not going to trench warfare with China but there would be hand to hand combat firefights etc. What kind of fighters would they be up close?
    Mini Kiss or the red army???? I've seen mini Kiss drunk, they can fight man, and bounce back up FAST after a good long toss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrin Stephens View Post
    Mini Kiss or the red army???? I've seen mini Kiss drunk, they can fight man, and bounce back up FAST after a good long toss
    Has it ever crossed anyone else's mind what sex would be like with a "little" gal?

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