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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Man, do I think Iíve got a solution to all of thisÖ



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    I got a super better idea, migrate them to Chicago.

    12,000/30=400 days. Issue solved.


    BRILLIANT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    I got a super better idea, migrate them to Chicago.

    12,000/30=400 days. Issue solved.


    BRILLIANT.


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    Solution in Chicago is ending the drug war. These shootings are mostly a result of gang turf wars for drugs.

    Not a lot of tequila gangs or wine cartels shooting guns in the streets of Chicago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Solution in Chicago is ending the drug war. These shootings are mostly a result of gang turf wars for drugs.

    Not a lot of tequila gangs or wine cartels shooting guns in the streets of Chicago.


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    One solution is to supply each Chicago citizen with a handgun and handgun training. When the the thugs start shooting, they'll be return fire in their direction. They'll be lots of good guys and gals with guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rover View Post
    One solution is to supply each Chicago citizen with a handgun and handgun training. When the the thugs start shooting, they'll be return fire in their direction. They'll be lots of good guys and gals with guns.
    The good guys and gals arenít the targets. Them shooting would just add another line of fire and more bloodshed (and probably innocent loss of life) to an already brutal situation. Couldnít think of a worse idea, with all due respect, actually.

    The thugs are shooting at and killing each other. An innocent bystander with a gun isnít any safer when gangs start shooting at each other at random than an unarmed bystander.

    Chicago is a hub for the cartels.

    Put a stop to that and the shootings will stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNGLE DRUMMER View Post
    The Soviets wanted everyone on the same page. So do the Chinese. So have a lot of bad leaders over the course of history. But, hey, if you think people of her ideology are doing a bang up job in government and making people's lives better, cool. Let Chicago be a shining example of how great life can be. Just better duck and stay out of the way of the bullets whizzing by.
    Dude, you're crazy.

    Is she a shitty mayor? Yes. Does saying that everyone working for her needs to be in tune with her policies as mayor some ridiculous request? No, not even close.

    I love just using the term new world order sets people off. If she had said "get in line with how things are going forward", it wouldn't have even been reported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    The good guys and gals aren’t the targets. Them shooting would just add another line of fire and more bloodshed (and probably innocent loss of life) to an already brutal situation. Couldn’t think of a worse idea, with all due respect, actually.

    The thugs are shooting at and killing each other. An innocent bystander with a gun isn’t any safer when gangs start shooting at each other at random than an unarmed bystander.

    Chicago is a hub for the cartels.

    Put a stop to that and the shootings will stop.
    Can't believe I am agreeing with the fucking Canadian, but he's right.

    You have to look at the underlying reason for the violence, and that is a cartel proxy war going on in Chicago. Legalize, regulate and tax recreational drugs, and the cartels might just go away.

    There is a reason why Chicago keeps repeating as a hub for violent crime when the US decides to ignore it's own populace and leave these antiquated drug laws on the books.
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    Part of it is drugs but part of it isn't, More kids have been shot in Chicago this year than died of COVID nationally. I can't assume all of them are passing out heroin on the streets.

    Major crime is up everywhere along with shootings. Columbus is now a mini-Chicago. The changes with police, tactics, etc have some effect. Not all but some. The border crisis is allowing a lot of bad people to come up unfettered. Not all but some. You add everything up and you have what we have today.

    Its not as easy as simply legalizing drugs or having social workers on police cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post
    Part of it is drugs but part of it isn't, More kids have been shot in Chicago this year than died of COVID nationally.

    I can't assume all of them are passing out heroin on the streets.
    Are you assuming all the kids need to be drug dealers in order for their deaths to be drug related?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post
    Part of it is drugs but part of it isn't, More kids have been shot in Chicago this year than died of COVID nationally. I can't assume all of them are passing out heroin on the streets.

    Major crime is up everywhere along with shootings. Columbus is now a mini-Chicago. The changes with police, tactics, etc have some effect. Not all but some. The border crisis is allowing a lot of bad people to come up unfettered. Not all but some. You add everything up and you have what we have today.

    Its not as easy as simply legalizing drugs or having social workers on police cases.
    How many people have been shot in Chicago? If this is true, then how the hell isn't the army patrolling the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    How many people have been shot in Chicago? If this is true, then how the hell isn't the army patrolling the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    Liberals hate the military.
    As much as they hate the police and white males.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    Liberals hate the military.
    No idea how a party against public safety has an ounce of support. You'd think this would be easily dunk against them. But what the hell do i know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    No idea how a party against public safety has an ounce of support. You'd think this would be easily dunk against them. But what the hell do i know.
    Unions? False sense of security?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 47 View Post
    Unions? False sense of security?
    I don't know. I wouldn't think either would play a role. Cops have unions, you'd think other unions would be in favour of adding as many cops to the payroll as is humanly possible. I can't imagine that many Americans look at a city like Chicago and think "nothing to see here" so I don't think it's a false sense of security. There is certainly an anti-cop narrative out there though. Look, I'm left of centre and I think public safety is pretty much the most important job of government. If you don't have that, you got nothing. Soput as many cops on the streets as possible, I'll gladly pay the extra taxes. The benefit to the life of law-abiding citizens would be immediately improved. I'm not talking about put a cop on every corner with the goal of writing as many jaywalking tickets as possible, I'm talking cops out there to keep society safe.

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    The cartel has its hold on Chicago.

    In my opinion, and I could be way off on this but until you cut off the head, the tailís still going to be thrashing.

    Police are largely reactive. Theyíll respond to shootings but they wonít stop many - especially if theyíre random. Iím not so sure a bigger police force in Chicago is going to make much of a dent in gangland shootings (which, I believe the majority in Chi town are).

    The state Government could be proactive through policy but at the same time the death penalty isnít a deterrent to capitol crime so whatís the harsh punishment going to be when this is life for so many people in that city? This is business-motivated crime. Money needs to be made. If one guy decides itís not worth it, thereís going to be 5 guys willing to take his place. Manís gotta eat.


    Stiffer penalties for gun crimes and gang related activity will set change in motion to a point, but until you get to the root of the problem (the drug war and cartels) the copsí hands are tied, for the most part.

    Until the US decides that the drug war is not a vested interest of theirs, nothingís going to improve there. The cartels are literally shipping addictive poison to their biggest customer (the US) and over the last 40 years this customerís Government has said, ĒYes, pleaseĒ while publicly saying, ĒThis is horribleĒ.

    Itís a form of for-profit chemical terrorism and if the US wasnít getting something out of it, it would have been ended in the 80ís.

    But the US doesnít want to end it. And thatís why Chicago is the way it is.

    Maybe Iím way off.


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