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    Never a sniper around when you truly need one.
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    When is Edward Snowden coming back from Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Intruder View Post
    When is Edward Snowden coming back from Russia?
    I don't know, but I liked the movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1986 View Post
    I don't know, but I liked the movie.
    I'd personally execute both of them and feel zero remorse for doing so.

    Throw in "Chelsea" Manning for good measure.
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    I am mixed on it. I was in agreement that he should have been executed when he did it but over the years our government is far worse than I ever imagined. Still don't like the fact that shit was leaked. Will have to see how it feels in a few days. I mean sitting presidents and former ones don't care about classified docs. People defend them both to death....

    Nah he should be in jail. I had to be accountable. They should too

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    He released the unredacted names of our intelligence assets around the world, including US State Department "employees" under cover.

    This included religious leaders, human rights leaders, and journalists. What does everyone think happened to those people and their families?

    You are a human rights leader in Afghanistan, fighting the good fight against the Taliban, and you are then publicly listed as a US asset by this fucking asshat. What do you think happened to those people, their families? Etc.

    There are whistleblower protocols in place that Assange and Manning could have used, and they do work, most DoD/IC scandals come out via whistleblower protocols, not leaking hundreds of thousands of documents with HUMINT in them.

    Fuck him, fuck Manning, fuck Snowden.
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    If you reveal the names of our spies and they or their families are killed you need to be executed.

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    So why has our government spared this guy? Obviously, there's a reason. We can say fuck this dude. But who should we really being saying fuck this to?

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    Because the whole upper levels of the government are now woke and pussified. The Rosenbergs wouldn't be executed in today's USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    So why has our government spared this guy? Obviously, there's a reason. We can say fuck this dude. But who should we really being saying fuck this to?
    Maybe it has to do with some of the stuff that was revealed?
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    Yeah people died over his leak. Just like our Afghan allies that Biden left abandoned in Afghanistan. The old guard like JFK, Nixon, etc would have made sure a dirt nap was in order.

    I felt mixed about it for 30 minutes. Not anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    So why has our government spared this guy? Obviously, there's a reason. We can say fuck this dude. But who should we really being saying fuck this to?
    Oliver Stone.

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    Publishing classified information—not leaking it, not illegally taking it, retaining it, stealing it, or showing it to unauthorized people, but publishing it—is protected by the first amendment.

    What is alleged is that Assange was a “co-conspirator” in the leaking of it. The problem is that what he’s accused of doing is what national security reporters do all the time (and some have been immortalized in film for doing it): taking steps to protect your source’s identity, setting up anonymous drop boxes to receive information, setting up encrypted forms of communication, etc. These are pretty standard journalistic practices.

    In the 20th century, the Espionage Act wasn’t seen as the appropriate way to deal with leakers. After 9/11, it started to go that way. And with Assange it’s going after the publisher of that information (which, by the way, included the American murders of Iraqi civilians and Reuters journalists, just to name a few, that the Bush Administration classified to keep quiet.)

    The government’s POV is that Assange is not a “real journalist,” so the first amendment doesn’t apply. So the question becomes whether we want the President deciding who is a journalist and who isn’t.

    This isn’t to say I agree with the way or with everything that Wikileaks published. But if you can’t publish classified materials, then we’re arresting every national security reporter there is.


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    And he was prosecuted for conspiring with Chelsea Manning and aided and abetted her in obtaining the classified information.

    I am not buying into the nobleness of Julian Assange. He is no fucking idiot, he knew damn well what he was doing would get people killed. If he was a "journalist" he could actually have written articles about it, without getting people all around the world tortured and killed.

    Journalists write articles, they don't publish millions of classified documents. When you start doing that you are no longer a journalist, you are a piece of shit human being.

    Give me immunity from prosecution, and I would kill the fucker myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    And he was prosecuted for conspiring with Chelsea Manning and aided and abetted her in obtaining the classified information.

    I am not buying into the nobleness of Julian Assange. He is no fucking idiot, he knew damn well what he was doing would get people killed. If he was a "journalist" he could actually have written articles about it, without getting people all around the world tortured and killed.

    Journalists write articles, they don't publish millions of classified documents. When you start doing that you are no longer a journalist, you are a piece of shit human being.

    Give me immunity from prosecution, and I would kill the fucker myself.
    And it’s perfectly legit for all of us to debate/discuss/agree/disagree on that point. What I don’t want is for Donald Trump or Joe Biden to unilaterally make that decision.

    My understanding is they summarized the documents. One example is here with a summary before the link to download the US killing civilians (and some laughing about it). That isn’t all that different than an article summarizing the Pentagon Papers and then also publishing the papers (or part of them).

    What I don’t want, and this sets the precedent for, is someone like Biden or Trump getting exposed and then saying, “Well, they just summarized it on Substack and then linked to the documents on Docucloud; that’s not real journalism,” and imprisoning the person for publishing. I’d rather err on that side than have someone I don’t think is fit for office unilaterally deciding who is and isn’t a journalist.


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