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    I don't think anybody is really understanding this.

    There is a shitload of people in this country that aren't D or R but all agree that Biden is bad for the country and they're gonna vote Trump even though he's shit personified to them. I talk to these people everyday.

    But let's believe all the polls shall we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 47 View Post
    Rioters Attack ‘Jews For Trump’ Convoy In New York City, Pelt Cars With Objects

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/riote...YnHeooEPxh0fFY
    The tolerant inclusive left again.

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    wrong thread - delete

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    I don't think anybody is really understanding this.

    There is a shitload of people in this country that aren't D or R but all agree that Biden is bad for the country and they're gonna vote Trump even though he's shit personified to them. I talk to these people everyday.

    But let's believe all the polls shall we?
    you'll know soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    If we're going to be honest with ourselves, she more than likely would have done a better job with it.

    Trump fucked it up.

    I had never thought of that but you might be right. She would definitely have been more likely to continue to build on the Obama/Biden Pandemic plan. but she might have used the pandemic as justification for a huge expansion of the ACA

    Quote Originally Posted by edwardv View Post
    The polls don't look good for the president but they didn't look good for him 4 years ago. Hell in the primaries too. His own party does not like him many of them are acting like he's already lost and guess what if he pulls it out he will remember who in the gop are his allies and enemies. If he loses he will blame everything on them and not on himself. Still waiting for that great health care plan and the wall with Mexico. Wonder how getting rid of FICA sits with 60 million seniors who have nothing else to do but visit the doctor and go vote?
    Dems need to hammer away at this. There is not much time for them since most of these seniors are voting early. But Trump said something over the weekend that I thought was shameless. He told a bunch of seniors that with Biden's energy plan they would not have air conditioning in the summer or heat in the winter. Or electricity at night if the wind was not blowing. That is just a shameless fear based scam. Seniors have enough to worry about without Trump propagating those lies

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    If that is the case, I’d get ready for the economy to take a shit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    It's taking a shit either way.

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    really seems like we are teetering on the edge and there is not much that can save it except for getting to a situation where we can have a safe reopening. Biden nailed it when he said you fix the economy when you fix covid.

    Quote Originally Posted by rchop84 View Post
    Exactly. It looks like it may be an early night next Tuesday...the lame duck status should be interesting the next 2.5 months
    o one can think this is in the bag for either side. It's going to be a brutal night for the country no matter what. Plus side is the number of Americans exercising their right to vote. I have prepared myself that due to the electoral college, Trump could pull this off and if so it is going to be something like the last election. A couple of counties in a couple of swing states and everything would have been different. Trump would have spent the last 4 years as the host of the Apprentice.

    My fear is that Trump could do so much damage as a lame duck. He is so vindictive and impulsive and the GOP has not had any real inclination to reign him in. If he loses, best case scenario for the GOP is to use the time to distance themselves from him and start to formulate a plan to recover the GOP post Trump. Midterms will be on us before we know it and they may realize a need to really do a thoughtful rebuilding of the party if the down ballot contests come out the way the polls indicate

    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    No one in the west got it right. Trump's poor communication on the file certainly made it a little worse than it should have been

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    Poor communication, poor actions. Pence out campaigning as an "essential" employee after 5 of his close staffers tested positive is a slap in the face of true essential workers across the country

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    I don't think anybody is really understanding this.

    There is a shitload of people in this country that aren't D or R but all agree that Biden is bad for the country and they're gonna vote Trump even though he's shit personified to them. I talk to these people everyday.

    But let's believe all the polls shall we?
    everything is regional I guess. I know a lot of people who have never been keen on voting at all but are going to the polls because they dislike Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD 5150 View Post
    It's reality. Stay in Canda where you are safe.
    don't worry, i won't be visiting for a while. This is another reason economies aren't gonna get up to speed for a while. Giant industries have been flat out destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    I don't think anybody is really understanding this.

    There is a shitload of people in this country that aren't D or R but all agree that Biden is bad for the country and they're gonna vote Trump even though he's shit personified to them. I talk to these people everyday.

    But let's believe all the polls shall we?
    Chris stop with objectivity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Hill View Post
    I had never thought of that but you might be right. She would definitely have been more likely to continue to build on the Obama/Biden Pandemic plan. but she might have used the pandemic as justification for a huge expansion of the ACA
    She certainly would have done a lot more than Trump has done. The question really is, would that have been a good thing? Imagine a Michigan style shutdown applied to the entire country. No thanks.

    I get why big government people blame Trump for inaction. They think the Federal Government is the solution to every problem facing every person. Remember Newsome was very keen on Trump talking Federal Action and was applauding and encouraging the President during the start of the crisis. For small government stats/rights people, the way trump managed the crisis is exactly what should have been done – support State managed efforts with Federal resources and manage things that are the purview of the Federal Government, ie. the borders.
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    Who thought A) this was a good message, and B) Mr. Nepotism was a good messenger?

    ... “One thing we’ve seen in a lot of the Black community, which is mostly Democrat, is that President Trump’s policies are the policies that can help people break out of the problems that they’re complaining about,” Kushner said Monday on “Fox & Friends.” “But he can’t want them to be successful more than they want to be successful.” ...

    (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...?sref=1TG0fQXK)

    With Biden going dark, Trump's campaign has a golden opportunity to make a final push a week out, and this is what we get, today, Kushner implying that if Blacks aren't successful under Trump, they're just not willing to put in the work?

    Can someone explain what this strategy might be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    Chris stop with objectivity.


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    are none of this people every polled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Who thought A) this was a good message, and B) Mr. Nepotism was a good messenger?

    ... “One thing we’ve seen in a lot of the Black community, which is mostly Democrat, is that President Trump’s policies are the policies that can help people break out of the problems that they’re complaining about,” Kushner said Monday on “Fox & Friends.” “But he can’t want them to be successful more than they want to be successful.” ...

    (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...?sref=1TG0fQXK)

    With Biden going dark, Trump's campaign has a golden opportunity to make a final push a week out, and this is what we get, today, Kushner implying that if Blacks aren't successful under Trump, they're just not willing to put in the work?

    Can someone explain what this strategy might be?
    If you don’t do for yourself it doesn’t matter what president is in office. That’s what I get.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    Who thought A) this was a good message, and B) Mr. Nepotism was a good messenger?

    ... “One thing we’ve seen in a lot of the Black community, which is mostly Democrat, is that President Trump’s policies are the policies that can help people break out of the problems that they’re complaining about,” Kushner said Monday on “Fox & Friends.” “But he can’t want them to be successful more than they want to be successful.” ...

    (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...?sref=1TG0fQXK)

    With Biden going dark, Trump's campaign has a golden opportunity to make a final push a week out, and this is what we get, today, Kushner implying that if Blacks aren't successful under Trump, they're just not willing to put in the work?

    Can someone explain what this strategy might be?
    It's interesting you say this, I heard his interview with Ben Shapiro this weekend and Kushner comes off better than anyone else in that administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    With Biden going dark,

    Can someone explain what this strategy might be?
    I know I'm taking your quote and twisting it...but I'd argue that Biden going dark is part of the Dem strategy. We know that The Donald tends to put his feet in his mouth when lashing out. IF he follows the polls (we, come on, we know he does)...and with such tweets as 'The Fake News Media is riding COVID, COVID, COVID, all the way to the Election. Losers' - he's prone to do just that. Those undecided, might see / hear something like this (or worse if The Donald continues to spin) and think, fuck it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    If you don’t do for yourself it doesn’t matter what president is in office. That’s what I get.


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    Yep. Move along. Nothing to see here. LM, I'm gonna need in the interest of fairness, an LM "wtf Biden" article. That is your mission for the day.

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