Israel vs. Palestine - the Bloodening

**The Rover** · 09.19.24, 02:34 AM

Israeli recruited by Iran in plot to kill Netanyahu, Gallant or Shin Bet head Bar

A 73-year-old Jewish man was smuggled from Turkey into the Iran Islamic Republic twice for meetings with intelligence officials who tried to task him with working on assassinations, plus other Iranian "Cold War" missions

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel...-bet-head-bar/

**ziggysmalls** · 09.19.24, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel

I have gotten to the point I don't buy into "innocent civilians" anymore. If you are part of the infrastructure supporting them, then you aren't innocent. You might not be guilty, but you don't get to claim innocence either, as you know what they are, where they are, and you don't do anything about it.

It would be like me saying I am innocent of US foreign policy. I'm not. I am a US citizen, I vote, I pay taxes that support it, and I work in the national defense industry, I don't get to say "I have nothing to do with it".

Its not like Hezbollah is sitting there playing chess on the streets of Lebanon. I think they have fired over 3000 rockets into Israeli over the past few months. Those are not guided so you are putting innocents at risk with every fire. Who carries an encrypted pager let alone any pager these days? You have a terrorist org in your country and have not done anything about it. No different than Germans in WW2 who certainly knew of death camps, Hitler being Hitler, etc and they went along with it. Some of them died in bombings by RAF and USAF. Some of them got killed when the Soviets came knocking in from the east. A lot of women got raped by the Soviets. Its terrible that these potential innocent people suffered but at the same time, other Germans resisted and took a chance. In reality most Germans were all for what was going on in the early years of the war. When it went south, they said "No Mas"

They can do the same over there.

**Number 47** · 09.19.24, 07:44 AM

https://www.facebook.com/share/qR8rc...ibextid=xfxF2i

**Daisy Hill** · 09.19.24, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel

I have gotten to the point I don't buy into "innocent civilians" anymore. If you are part of the infrastructure supporting them, then you aren't innocent. You might not be guilty, but you don't get to claim innocence either, as you know what they are, where they are, and you don't do anything about it.

It would be like me saying I am innocent of US foreign policy. I'm not. I am a US citizen, I vote, I pay taxes that support it, and I work in the national defense industry, I don't get to say "I have nothing to do with it".

These things blew up in public places including a grocery store, and small children were scooped up by parents and taken away from the scene. 2 kids died in other attacks, so no one cared about where theses people were when the pagers were detonated. That's a true innocent

**BREW CREW** · 09.19.24, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Daisy Hill

These things blew up in public places including a grocery store, and small children were scooped up by parents and taken away from the scene. 2 kids died in other attacks, so no one cared about where theses people were when the pagers were detonated. That's a true innocent

October 7th

**ziggysmalls** · 09.20.24, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Daisy Hill

These things blew up in public places including a grocery store, and small children were scooped up by parents and taken away from the scene. 2 kids died in other attacks, so no one cared about where theses people were when the pagers were detonated. That's a true innocent

So were the 1200 people on October 7th just enjoying a day in their life.

So are the people who continue to die by Hezbollah missile attacks which are not guided to military installations but simply point and shoot. 3000 rockets fired. How about those 12 kids killed in early August from those attacks?

Innocent people die in war. Its a shame but if there was ever a targeted attack by a country the one a few days ago was one.

**edwardv** · 09.20.24, 06:03 AM

It's not just Oct 7 2023. There's been constant murder of Israelis since this 2 state solution was started. The murder being done by Hamas and Hezbo funded by Iran and even US money given to Iran. Can't remember who gave them that money. Those same fellows who fixed my health insurance and saved me 2500 a year . 🫣

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**The Rover** · 09.21.24, 01:38 AM

Hezbollah commander killed in Israeli airstrike was top military official on US wanted list

https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-h...09b19155e35d13

**fudd** · 09.21.24, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Daisy Hill

These things blew up in public places including a grocery store, and small children were scooped up by parents and taken away from the scene. 2 kids died in other attacks, so no one cared about where theses people were when the pagers were detonated. That's a true innocent

You have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.

I really don’t care about innocents in this particular case. You fuck with the Jews, you get what you get.

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**It's Mike** · 09.21.24, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by fudd

You have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.

I really don’t care about innocents in this particular case. You fuck with the Jews, you get what you get.

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Innocent people are innocent people. This sort of logic is the kind of logic some used to justify 9/11.

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**fudd** · 09.21.24, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by It's Mike

Innocent people are innocent people. This sort of logic is the kind of logic some used to justify 9/11.

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Ok. They aren’t innocent. They have elected hamas and hez leaders for the better part of 30 years. They did this to themselves. Its sad. But I have no sympathy for them.

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**T.B.** · 09.21.24, 09:33 AM

I find it interesting that since the kiddies are back in school, there haven't been any protests of note at Colleges (or anywhere else for that matter) condemning Israel. I guess someone got the memo now isn't a good time to protest or cover protests so close to the elections.

**It's Mike** · 09.21.24, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by fudd

Ok. They aren’t innocent. They have elected hamas and hez leaders for the better part of 30 years. They did this to themselves. Its sad. But I have no sympathy for them.

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So the little kid that died and the ones that got hurt "did it to themselves"? Gotcha. That's so fucking idiotic.

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**fudd** · 09.21.24, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by It's Mike

So the little kid that died and the ones that got hurt "did it to themselves"? Gotcha. That's so fucking idiotic.

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Great. So the parents can reflect on why the kid is dead I guess.

War is hell. Israel didn’t ask for this shit. Talk to Hamas. They did this. I feel no remorse. You sign up for the leadership you ended up getting, this could happen. They are all complicit in this. Sorry it sucks and all, but those who voted for the leadership are the issues. And now they bear the consequences.

And for that, I have no guilt.

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**It's Mike** · 09.21.24, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by fudd

Great. So the parents can reflect on why the kid is dead I guess.

War is hell. Israel didn’t ask for this shit. Talk to Hamas. They did this. I feel no remorse. You sign up for the leadership you ended up getting, this could happen. They are all complicit in this. Sorry it sucks and all, but those who voted for the leadership are the issues. And now they bear the consequences.

And for that, I have no guilt.

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Was that your sentiment on 9/11? The innocents that died should have reflected on who their parents voted for? (PS Hesbolah received under 20% of the votes in their last election).

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