WTF?!

**cloudieskie** · 01.10.02, 01:34 PM

listening to OPie and Anthony on WNEW 102.7 here in NY. They just said that Spin Magazine DID NOT put Van Halen on their top 50 bands of all time.

**DLR'sCock** · 01.10.02, 02:01 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by cloudieskie:
listening to OPie and Anthony on WNEW 102.7 here in NY. They just said that Spin Magazine DID NOT put Van Halen on their top 50 bands of all time.<hr></blockquote>

are you fucking kidding me?????

**cloudieskie** · 01.10.02, 02:07 PM

I'm coping down the list as they say it. I'll post it all as soon as i get it all.

BTW, Black Sabbath, #29, The WHO #39

**Brett** · 01.10.02, 02:14 PM

Nope VH didn't make it but the incredibly talented Ramones are #2!

**JWS_5150** · 01.10.02, 02:19 PM

Wow. That's...crazy.

**laner** · 01.10.02, 02:22 PM

well, it seems that a certain NY radio station lost it's credibility. it's that simple.

**Glenn** · 01.10.02, 02:29 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Brett:
Nope VH didn't make it but the incredibly talented Ramones are #2! <hr></blockquote>If KISS made the list, Brett's gonna lose it!!!!

**Olen** · 01.10.02, 02:31 PM

I have said it before, so I will repeat myself...

In the mythical "Book of Rock," there are certain bands that demand whole chapters, while there are other bands worthy of only a page, a paragraph or a footnote.

The Beatles, the Stones, the Who, Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Springsteen and E-Street are certainly "chapter-worthy" candidates.

Van Halen is "chapter-worthy." Van Halen reintroduced the world to American Rock Music, w/ blazing guitars, loud drums, head-jarring bass thumps and a loud, obnoxious and testerone-riddled front man. No other American act was doing what Van Halen was in 1978.

The Ramones, while a significant punk band, did not invent punk, did not perfect punk, and did little to advance music. Catchy tunes? Yes. Top 50 band? Maybe. At the exclusion of Van Halen - NO FRIGGIN' WAY!!

Millions of people didn't pick up the guitar b/c of the Ramones...they did b/c of VH. There were a handful of Ramones' immitators...THERE ARE STILL HUNDREDS of Van Halen wannabe's paying their dues. Van Halen has sold 51 million records in the US alone. The list goes on.

Musical taste is one thing (which cannot really be objectified, despite what I tried to do above)...but to say VH is not a top 50 borders on lunacy...or being tone deaf.

[ January 10, 2002 at 01:45 PM: Message edited by: Olen ]

**cloudieskie** · 01.10.02, 02:32 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by laner:
well, it seems that a certain NY radio station lost it's credibility. it's that simple.<hr></blockquote>

huh?!

**Brett** · 01.10.02, 02:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Glenn:
If KISS made the list, Brett's gonna lose it!!!!

I'm willing to bet those old fucks made it.

**cloudieskie** · 01.10.02, 02:35 PM

the list

50 red hot chili peppers
49 pinkfloyd
48 korn
47 skynrd
46 massive attack
45 beach boys
44 outkast
43 guns and roses
42 husker du
41 new order
40 grand master flash
39 the who
38 bad brains
37 blonde
36 David Bowie
35 Fela Cootie and the African/Egypt 80
34 rage against the machine
33 pretenders
32 kiss
31 fugazi
30 pavement
29 black Sabbath
28 rem
27 grateful dead
26 pearl jam
25 kraftwork
24 niggas with attitude
23 nwa
22 patty smith group
21 the smiths
20 mettalica
19 the stooges
18 AC/DC
17 sonic youth
16 Jimmie Hendrix
15 radiohead
14 DMC
13 U2
12 Sly and the family stone
11 Velvet Underground
10 Beastie Boys
9 Rolling Stones
8 Public Enemy
7 The Clash
6 Parliament
5 Nirvana
4 Bob Marley
3 Led Zepplin
2 Ramones
1 The Beatles

**Brett** · 01.10.02, 02:37 PM

That's a horrible list BTW! What idiot at Spin came up with that?

I told you Kiss would make it, #32 and higher than the Who. Whatever.

Lists are lame anyway and they should be banned from all publications. It's a stupid ass popularity contest anyway.

**cloudieskie** · 01.10.02, 02:44 PM

Beatles I can see, Zep I can see, but BOB MARLEY?
maybe in the the top ten, but the top three?

**jimmy** · 01.10.02, 02:47 PM

Why is NWA on there twice?

**DLR'sCock** · 01.10.02, 02:58 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Olen:
I have said it before, so I will repeat myself...

In the mythical "Book of Rock," there are certain bands that demand whole chapters, while there are other bands worthy of only a page, a paragraph or a footnote.

The Beatles, the Stones, the Who, Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Springsteen and E-Street are certainly "chapter-worthy" candidates.

Van Halen is "chapter-worthy." Van Halen reintroduced the world to American Rock Music, w/ blazing guitars, loud drums, head-jarring bass thumps and a loud, obnoxious and testerone-riddled front man. No other American act was doing what Van Halen was in 1978.

The Ramones, while a significant punk band, did not invent punk, did not perfect punk, and did little to advance music. Catchy tunes? Yes. Top 50 band? Maybe. At the exclusion of Van Halen - NO FRIGGIN' WAY!!

Millions of people didn't pick up the guitar b/c of the Ramones...they did b/c of VH. There were a handful of Ramones' immitators...THERE ARE STILL HUNDREDS of Van Halen wannabe's paying their dues. Van Halen has sold 51 million records in the US alone. The list goes on.

Musical taste is one thing (which cannot really be objectified, despite what I tried to do above)...but to say VH is not a top 50 borders on lunacy...or being tone deaf.

[ January 10, 2002 at 01:45 PM: Message edited by: Olen ]<hr></blockquote>

Dude I disagree....the Ramones were an incredibly Influential band in Rock N Roll and were the FIRST PUNK band to record and release an album. Although I obviously agree that Van Halen should be in the top 50...there is no doubt in my mind that the Ramones should be there also...they influenced countless bands to and coutless guitar players to pick up their guiyars and learn how to play ROCK and PUNK!!

I would say that there may be as many or even possibly more signed and recording bands out there that were greatly influenced by the Ramones as they were by Van Halen. So please I can understand people being angree about a Top 50 list by SPIN magazine, which isn't a great mag anyway...but don't discredit the Ramones.

AND there is no way there are only a handful of Ramones imitators....every PUNK band...Metal band...Thrash Band....Alternative band..Post modern band...etc etc were influenced by the Ramones.....