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04.27.01, 10:36 AM #1
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Here's a snippet. The last paragraph is really puzzling me - the
hospital is Houston says he carried on the cancer prevention program
for much of last year but never diagnosed him as having cancer? WTF?
What's the deal? He got diagnosed in LA but Houston missed it? Or he
went to months of cancer prevention treatment and then got cancer.
I'm totally [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]
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Toshia Johnson, a spokesperson for Cedars-Sinai Medical
Center in Los Angeles, said she could not say whether Van
Halen had been treated at the hospital.
Last May, a spokesperson for M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in
Houston denied reports that Van Halen had cancer, but said the
guitarist was being treated in a cancer prevention program at
the hospital (see "UPDATE: Van Halen Cancer Report
Clarified").
The spokesperson, Jane Brust, said Friday that Van Halen
continued that program over the last year, but hasn't been at
the cancer center for several months. Doctors at that hospital
have never diagnosed him with cancer, Brust said.Delusions of eloquence
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04.27.01, 11:01 AM #2
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"Look, it's really quite simple... You just stay here, and make sure he doesn't leave..."
-Monty Python and The Holy Grail
[ April 27, 2001 at 11:02 AM: Message edited by: Wolfman ]
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Jonathan, I think it's obvious that certain information wasn't made public for obvious reasons, first and foremost, because he is such a public figure that all of the media attention and fan attention would obviously cause him some disturbance.
His recent statement doesn't really reveal a whole lot, but I'll take him at his word that he is doing great at this point. I don't think it's so important at this point to dissect every event, statement, etc. to try and figure out his (& Dave's) situation, but rather to focus on now, the present.
I know you hope he recovers and they can carry on with the reunion. I just think our prayers, energy, etc., can be more productively spent at this point by concentrating on him fully recovering.
In the words of Madden, peace. out.Over 19 years on the links!!
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04.27.01, 11:39 AM #4
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jonathan:
Doctors at that hospital
have never diagnosed him with cancer, Brust said.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Maybe I'm misreading this, but you can only be diagnosed with something once. So if they diagnosed him in L.A., technically he wasn't diagnosed in Houston.
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04.27.01, 11:44 AM #5
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Glenn:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jonathan:
Maybe I'm misreading this, but you can only be diagnosed with something once. So if they diagnosed him in L.A., technically he wasn't diagnosed in Houston.
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This is a hospital spokesperson not Brad Starks [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I only see one way to read that - anyway, haven't you heard of second opinions? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]Delusions of eloquence
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04.27.01, 11:47 AM #6
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wolfman:
"Look, it's really quite simple... You just stay here, and make sure he doesn't leave..."
-Monty Python and The Holy Grail
[ April 27, 2001 at 11:02 AM: Message edited by: Wolfman ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sniff, sniff. I love you man! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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04.27.01, 11:48 AM #7
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Hey, if you've got cancer, what's the second opinion going to tell you? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
I stick by my "you can only be diagnosed once" theory. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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04.27.01, 11:51 AM #8
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by esquiretoo:
Jonathan, I think it's obvious that certain information wasn't made public for obvious reasons, first and foremost, because he is such a public figure that all of the media attention and fan attention would obviously cause him some disturbance.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The third paragraph refers to today (Friday). Why would they lie? They'd more likely say no comment.
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His recent statement doesn't really reveal a whole lot, but I'll take him at his word that he is doing great at this point. I don't think it's so important at this point to dissect every event, statement, etc. to try and figure out his (& Dave's) situation, but rather to focus on now, the present.
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Well we all have our own priorities. And this is the present.
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I know you hope he recovers and they can carry on with the reunion. I just think our prayers, energy, etc., can be more productively spent at this point by concentrating on him fully recovering.
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I don't want to sound like a prick but I'm sure I'm going to anyway. I don't do prayer - I'll leave that to others, and I fail to see how I can put energy into concentrating on Eddie fully recovering. I have no idea what that means.
Of course I want him to get better above all else. But I can't switch of my brain and pretend that the info out there isn't really out there.Delusions of eloquence
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I'm not a praying type of person either, but I would just like Eddie to get well. Frankly, I could live without the reunion for a while, if it will endanger Ed's health.
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well, if you'll notice, i didn't just say prayer because i didn't want to offend anyone. Anyway, I wasn't trying to ding anybody...i just feel that it's no use trying to over analyze when he got diagnosed and by whom, etc....the fact remains is that now, the present, we know why things have taken a while...obviously, no information was revealed (and a few white lies were told) in an effort to protect his privacy.
Not that I'm saying Ed is dying at all, because he has said he is doing great, but this kind of makes me think of the Freddie Mercury situation... No one talked about his actual condition until it was too late to hide it anymore.
And, I wasn't trying to sound like a prick myself. I had no intention of offending you Jonathan. And when I said "energy", i simply meant that if you don't pray, then surely you can have a positive thought toward his recovery....nothing sophisticated about that.
[ April 27, 2001 at 12:31 PM: Message edited by: esquiretoo ]Over 19 years on the links!!
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brett:
I'm not a praying type of person either, but I would just like Eddie to get well. Frankly, I could live without the reunion for a while, if it will endanger Ed's health.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I absolutely agree. I doubt whether we will see a tour for a long time, if ever, even if
they manage to record an album. I certainly didn't mean to imply that Eddie is lying/spinning to delay a reunion.
I just think the statement from the Houston hospital is odd.Delusions of eloquence
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Sorry, guys. I'll be conmfortable talking about prayer all I want. If it makes other people uncomfortable, I won't lose any sleep over it. I believe in mutual respect of each others views. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wolfman:
Sorry, guys. I'll be conmfortable talking about prayer all I want. If it makes other people uncomfortable, I won't lose any sleep over it. I believe in mutual respect of each others views. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I love how these arguments always get turned around [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] All day it's been *we* should do this and *we* shouldn't do that. I never suggested anyone shouldn't pray, just that *I* wouldn't.
esquire - I didn't think you were being a prick or making me uncomfortable. Like I said, of course I want Eddie to get better. But I can have positive thoughts without switching off my analytical side (which I can't do....it's in my blood).Delusions of eloquence
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