Van Halen Song called 'High Hopes'

**the 316 man** · 07.17.02, 04:19 AM

Anybody ever heard the song High Hopes which was never released but recoreded in 1993. It has a F.U.C.K sound era and is a pretty good sounding song.

**Carbo21** · 07.17.02, 04:40 AM

That's not VH, it's Hagar solo. It was recorded as a new tune for Sammy's "UnBoxed" greatest hits released in the early/mid 90's.

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**the 316 man** · 07.17.02, 04:49 AM

Man I bet to differ, The same friend who had the bootleg of the High Hopes song also has Hagers Unboxed and it is not a Hagar Song. The bootleg said Van Halen and if you go to www.vhboots.com you can search the song and find it. By the the way just to make sure i'm write, the first line goes 'another dream goes up in smoke, huh'. Then the guitar riff starts.

**BrokenCombs** · 07.17.02, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by the 316 man:
By the the way just to make sure i'm write, the first line goes 'another dream goes up in smoke, huh'. Then the guitar riff starts.

That is the first line in the Sammy Hagar song "High Hopes" off Unboxed. If the song you speak about starts off with this very line, it's not Van Halen.

**Raldo** · 07.17.02, 06:29 AM

The song 'High Hopes' is NOT a Van Halen song. It was a new song recorded for Sammy's 'Unboxed' disc. I did read an article where Sammy played the song for Eddie to use on a VH album but Eddie didn't want to use it. So, Sammy put it on his own album.

**strungout** · 07.17.02, 09:38 AM

Actually Sammy wrote it for VH, and I think they did record it, but the band didn't want to use it for the album, so Sam rerecorded it for 'Unboxed'. Actually, I'm not positive VH ever did record it, but Sammy DID write it for VH during FUCK.

**Rod Dangle** · 07.17.02, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by strungout:
Actually Sammy wrote it for VH, and I think they did record it, but the band didn't want to use it for the album, so Sam rerecorded it for 'Unboxed'. Actually, I'm not positive VH ever did record it, but Sammy DID write it for VH during FUCK.

That's what I thought. I also read somewhere after Sam left that Ed was pissed that Sammy used that song 'cause VH wanted to do it eventually, I think for Balance but Sam used it for Unboxed instead.

I checked http://www.vhboots.com/rakeit.html and the only live listing of that one was when Tres Gusanos did it.

**mhnyr2000** · 07.17.02, 04:22 PM

If I remember correctly Hagar brought the song to VH and Eddie didn't like it thats why it wasn't a VH song.

Right before Sammy left/got fired from VH he brought Leaving The Warmth Of The Womb to Eddie and paraphrasing Sammy said Eddie said something to the effect of "That is alot better than that High Hopes shit".I read that in a Sammy interview around when Marching To Mars came out

**Dan Halen** · 07.17.02, 08:47 PM

Yeah, High Hopes is a Sammy song. I wish VH would have done it for FUCK or Balance though.

**Dan Halen** · 07.18.02, 01:03 AM

Nevermind

[ July 18, 2002, 01:04 AM: Message edited by: Dan Halen ]

**Rod Dangle** · 07.18.02, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by tease:
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originally posted by Rod Dangle:
I checked http://www.vhboots.com/rakeit.html and the only live listing of that one was when Tres Gusanos did it.

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**Rod Dangle** · 07.18.02, 06:01 AM

Originally posted by mhnyr2000:
If I remember correctly Hagar brought the song to VH and Eddie didn't like it thats why it wasn't a VH song.

Right before Sammy left/got fired from VH he brought Leaving The Warmth Of The Womb to Eddie and paraphrasing Sammy said Eddie said something to the effect of "That is alot better than that High Hopes shit".I read that in a Sammy interview around when Marching To Mars came out

Interesting, I never heard that story before.

**tease** · 07.18.02, 12:52 PM

originally posted by Rod Dangle:
I checked http://www.vhboots.com/rakeit.html and the only live listing of that one was when Tres Gusanos did it.

He also performed it in 1994 at the David Letterman Show.

**tease** · 07.18.02, 12:53 PM

Oops, i guess i somehow fucked this quote up!

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**the 316 man** · 07.18.02, 06:05 PM

Well people I stand corrected. One thing I will do though is listen to the Unboxed version and my supposed bootleg version and get back to you. You never know it could be an actual Van Halen recording of that song. Give me a couple of days.