JFK terror plot foiled (NOW can we get rid of the muslims?)

[sisca]

NEW YORK - Federal authorities announced Saturday they had broken up a suspected Muslim terrorist cell planning a "chilling" attack to destroy John F. Kennedy International Airport, kill thousands of people and trigger an economic catastrophe by blowing up a jet fuel artery that runs through populous residential neighborhoods.


Three men, one of them a former member of Guyana's parliament, were arrested and one was being sought in Trinidad as part of a plot that authorities said they had been tracked for more than a year and was foiled in the planning stages.

"The devastation that would be caused had this plot succeeded is just unthinkable," U.S. Attorney Roslynn R. Mauskopf said at a news conference, calling it "one of the most chilling plots imaginable."

In an indictment charging the four men, one of them is quoted as saying the foiled plot would "cause greater destruction than in the Sept. 11 attacks," destroying the airport, killing several thousand people and destroying parts of New York's borough of Queens, where the line runs underground.

One of the suspects, Russell Defreitas, a U.S. citizen native to Guyana and former JFK air cargo employee, said the airport named for the slain president was targeted because it is a symbol that would put "the whole country in mourning."

"It's like you can kill the man twice," said Defreitas, 63, who first hatched his plan more than a decade ago when he worked as a cargo handler for a service company, according to the indictment.

Authorities said the men were motivated by hatred toward the U.S., Israel and the West. Defreitas was recorded saying he "wanted to do something to get those bastards."

Despite their efforts, the men never obtained any explosives, authorities said.

"Pulling off any bombing of this magnitude would not be easy in today's environment," former U.S. State Department counterterrorism expert Fred Burton said, but added it was difficult to determine without knowing all the facts of the case.

Richard Kuprewicz, a pipeline expert and president of Accufacts Inc., an energy consulting firm that focuses on pipelines and tank farms, said the force of explosion would depend on the amount of fuel under pressure, but it would not travel up and down the line.

"That doesn't mean wackos out there can't do damage and cause a fire, but those explosions and fires are going to be fairly restricted," he said.

Since Defreitas retired from his job at the airport, security has significantly tightened and his knowledge of the operation was severely outdated.

He was arraigned Saturday afternoon in federal court, but did not enter a plea. He was to be held pending a bail hearing scheduled for Wednesday, prosecutors said. A phone number for his lawyer could not be located.

Two other men, Abdul Kadir of Guyana and Kareem Ibrahim of Trinidad, were in custody in Trinidad. A fourth man, Abdel Nur of Guyana, was still being sought in Trinidad.

Authorities said Kadir and Nur were longtime associates of a Trinidadian radical Muslim group, Jamaat al Muslimeen, which launched an unsuccessful rebellion in 1990 that left 24 dead.

Kadir, a former member of Parliament in Guyana, was arrested in Trinidad for attempting to secure money for "terrorist operations," according to a Guyanese police commander who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Kadir left his position in Parliament last year. Muslims make up about 9 percent of the former Dutch and British colony's 770,000 population, mostly from the Sunni sect.

Isha Kadir, the Guyanese suspect's wife, said her husband flew from Guyana to Trinidad on Thursday. She said he was arrested Friday as he was boarding a flight from Trinidad to Venezuela, where he planned to pick up a travel visa to attend an Islamic religious conference in Iran.

"We have no interest in blowing up anything in the U.S.," she said Saturday from the couple's home in Guyana. "We have relatives in the U.S."

The pipeline, owned by Buckeye Pipeline Co., takes fuel from a facility in Linden, N.J., to the airport. Other lines service LaGuardia Airport and Newark Liberty International Airport.

Buckeye spokesman Roy Haase said the company, which moves petroleum through pipelines in a number of states, had been informed of the threat from the beginning but he declined to detail the company's security measures.

"Given the nature of Buckeye business and the importance of this transportation network, we have an intense and ongoing communications relationship with the Port Authority, the New York City fire and police departments, the federal Department of Homeland Security and the FBI," he said. Buckeye is a subsidiary of Buckeye Partners, L.P. based in Macungie, Pa.

JFK and the area's other airports remained at a heightened state of alert Saturday, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said.

Jeanie Mamo, a spokeswoman for the White House, said President Bush had been briefed and updated regularly as the investigation into the plot progressed.

"This case is a good example of international counterterrorism cooperation," Mamo said.

The arrests mark the latest in a series of alleged homegrown terrorism plots targeting high-profile American landmarks.

A year ago, seven men were arrested in what officials called the early stages of a plot to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago and destroy FBI offices and other buildings.

A month later, authorities broke up a plot to bomb underwater New York City train tunnels to flood lower Manhattan.

[Dr5115]

SOS

These shitheads wont stop, only a matter of time before they hit us again.

Again, young MUSLIM men trying to blow things up. Security for the airports could be alot easier if we would just profile ALL people who are from Foreign countries, Americans who have traveled to the Middle East and anyone with a criminal record.

We have the right to travel and live in a safe country. Who gives a shit if foreigners are offended. It's getting to the point if you're muslim and male..........well............TOUGH SHIT. Any employer should think twice before giving you a job in a sensitive security area.

Rant over.......just sick of this bullshit.

[wham bam will rock]

"There ain't nothin' more dangerous than a fool with a cause"

[FORD]

As if Islam has some sort of copyright on terrorism.........

Remember Tim McVeigh and James Nichols??

Eric Rudolph??

Paul Hill??

Clayton Waegner??

David Koresh??

Randall Terry??

Look these people up. They're Christian terrorists.

And the other children of Abraham don't get off easy here either.

Look up a guy named Rabbi Meir Kahane. Or Ariel Sharon, for that matter. Even Menachem Begin, the only Israeli prime minister to ever reach a peace accord with a neighboring country, started his political life as a terrorist.

Now what do these groups all have in common? Well, they're all acting in the name of the same God. And all failing miserably to represent Him.

[Van Squalen]

As if Islam has some sort of copyright on terrorism.........

Remember Tim McVeigh and James Nichols??

Eric Rudolph??

Paul Hill??

Clayton Waegner??

David Koresh??

Randall Terry??

Look these people up. They're Christian terrorists.

And the other children of Abraham don't get off easy here either.

Look up a guy named Rabbi Meir Kahane. Or Ariel Sharon, for that matter. Even Menachem Begin, the only Israeli prime minister to ever reach a peace accord with a neighboring country, started his political life as a terrorist.

Now what do these groups all have in common? Well, they're all acting in the name of the same God. And all failing miserably to represent Him.

Yep, it's easy for the redneck nation to assign blame to specific theism. Not like whitey does that kinda shit, no way!

Every nation has a right to peace and prosperity. Dubya invoked the Word of God in sponsoring his war efforts, just as certain extremist sects claiming the glory and will of Allah (not remotely representative of the true tenets of Islam, as any true Islamist or scholar of the Koran can tell you) have used the same justification.

[AT]

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

I can't fucking BELIEVE the title of this thread.

In our country we don't discriminate against an individual based on his/her religious background--that's what makes us DIFFERENT and BETTER than terrorists. All Muslims are not terrorists; in fact, only a very few are.

[Dr5115]

forgive my ignorance, I was just thinking of a few terrorist events that all had one common pattern.

First World trade center........................Islamic Extremist

USS Cole............................................Is lamic Extremist

US embassy bombings (Africa I think)......Islamic Extremist

911............................................... ....Islamic Extremist

Shoe Bomber on AA flight......................Islamic Extremist

Madrid Train bombings..........................Islamic Extremist

London Subway bombings......................Islamic Extremist

JFK fuel pipeline...................................Islamic Extremist

I know I'm forgetting a couple

Yes I know that not all Muslims are terrorist. Yes, I do know that people of other faiths perform acts of terrorism. However, this is a organized group of people who has told the world of their desire to destroy us and our way of life.

If the trend above and the fact that these fucks would just assume kill innocent women and children with no regret doesn't scare you, I don't know what will.

I hope these guys in the JFK scandal and any other human who would try to hurt americans in an act of terrorism should HANG!

Kill em...........they'd kill you.

[LLFHS]

None of which invalidate's Ford's post nor Squalen or AT.net's follow-ups.

The facts are undeniable. EVERY religion has it's extremists. Wanna get rid of all the Muslims?.....then logically you have to go after the Christians Fundies next. You all remember Centennial Park, yes?

[LLFHS]

However, this is a organized group of people who has told the world of their desire to destroy us and our way of life.

Oh, speaking of which......check this out.

[perticelli]

Discrimination is an idea that was formulated to prevent inequality among American citizens based on their freedoms of choice.The Monarchy of England was free to persecute based on any set of 'isms, if they chose to, and the Founders of this nation wanted to insure equality in freedoms. It was/is a concept that is limited to relevant circumstance involving Americans. Yes, it can also be for the larger picture of the world, but that isnt really relevant here.

"Discrimination" for the purpose of finding non-American citizens, who openly threaten and attack us is simply common sense and is irrelevant in the face of national security under these circumstances.

Catholic priests who molested children had catholicism as a commonality, among other things. Seeing as it turned out to be strictly limited to catholic perpetrators, then ignoring that fact would be irrational...interviewing Buddhist priests or jewish Rabbi's wouldnt make sense.
Catholicism wasnt why they did what they did. It was simply a matter of these men being monsters. Investigating them doesnt discriminate against their right to practice catholicism, or even discriminate against them for being catholic. It is simply a matter of using the facts that you have to pursue a solution to the overall problem. It is the same with Muslims. Unfortunately, they, as a whole, arent assisting in any meaningful way to help defend that which they say is being defiled..their religion, and as such, they are implicit in the prejudice and worthy of the hairy eyeball everyday.

I dont know about you, but when it comes to the safety of my family, im taking a good, hard look at all muslims in certain situations, well before i look at other foreign citizens, let alone American citizens.
If an investigation was formed

[willy4pres]

Totally!!! Every time I drive to work im attacked by Muslim extremists!! No wait, that doesn't happen.

[Dr5115]

Wow.....................

I don't care what religion you are, or what color your skin is.

If any group desires to hurt innocent people, then forgive me ladies, but yes I do have a problem with that.

This group just happens to be extreme, and Muslim. That is a fact. So yes, I do not like Muslim extremist.

Just don't be surprised when the next 911 happens. And pray none of your friends or family are involved. It's not a matter of if, it's just a matter of when it is going to happen.

Props to the FBI, thankfully this was stopped before anyone got hurt.

[LLFHS]

Wow.....................

I don't care what religion you are, or what color your skin is.

If any group desires to hurt innocent people, then forgive me ladies, but yes I do have a problem with that.

This group just happens to be extreme, and Muslim. That is a fact. So yes, I do not like Muslim extremist.

Just don't be surprised when the next 911 happens. And pray none of your friends or family are involved. It's not a matter of if, it's just a matter of when it is going to happen.

Props to the FBI, thankfully this was stopped before anyone got hurt.

Mah bud.....I don't think anyone here is taking you to task for being angry with any group, regardless of faith, that would seek to harm innocent people. I'll pick up that sword and follow you in.

Muslim extremists, Christian extremists, the KKK......hell the friggin Klingons. If your goal is to destroy to satisfy some warped religious dogma, then I wanna see ya go down and go down hard......preferebly into a casket than a courtroom.

My beef is that the hate du jour seems to be anyone who is of the muslim faith. They simply aren't the only faith capable of being twisted into something evil.

[Van Squalen]

Catholicism wasnt why they did what they did. It was simply a matter of these men being monsters. Investigating them doesnt discriminate against their right to practice catholicism, or even discriminate against them for being catholic. It is simply a matter of using the facts that you have to pursue a solution to the overall problem. It is the same with Muslims. Unfortunately, they, as a whole, arent assisting in any meaningful way to help defend that which they say is being defiled..their religion, and as such, they are implicit in the prejudice and worthy of the hairy eyeball everyday.

I dont know about you, but when it comes to the safety of my family, im taking a good, hard look at all muslims in certain situations, well before i look at other foreign citizens, let alone American citizens.

This is just another case of fear-based profiling. You are merely reacting to the most prevalent and showcased ethnicity being sensationalized in the media, as a direct result of two airplanes, two buildings, and an invasion of a central Mideast region not condoned by the world at large. All the while, plenty of domestic 'patriot'-based threats, Russian and Chinese economic and military espionage, rumblings from Hugo and South America and the Taiwanese/Chinese imbroglio, North Korean saber rattling, increasing alienation of the European alliances. The list is long. Several fanatical cells of faux Islamic terrorists are only some, not nearly all, of the larger security threats in America's near future, and they certainly don't represent Islam on a whole. Grouping an entire population because of a few within its ranks is a very dangerous and decidedly un-American thing to do.

[JasonG5150]

This is just another case of fear-based profiling. You are merely reacting to the most prevalent and showcased ethnicity being sensationalized in the media, as a direct result of two airplanes, two buildings, and an invasion of a central Mideast region not condoned by the world at large. All the while, plenty of domestic 'patriot'-based threats, Russian and Chinese economic and military espionage, rumblings from Hugo and South America and the Taiwanese/Chinese imbroglio, North Korean saber rattling, increasing alienation of the European alliances. The list is long. Several fanatical cells of faux Islamic terrorists are only some, not nearly all, of the larger security threats in America's near future, and they certainly don't represent Islam on a whole. Grouping an entire population because of a few within its ranks is a very dangerous and decidedly un-American thing to do.

It's not our fault that the terrorist have given the muslims the stereotype of being "terrorist"

You really can't blame someone for being cautious when they see a muslim. I'd rather be safe than sorry.