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04.28.07, 09:39 PM #1
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"5150" the song.... was it about Dave?
From the first time I heard the song "5150" I always thought the lyrics sounded a lot like they could be in reference to Dave. Now, of course, if Sammy had indeed written the lyrics then we can assume it was about a current or previous girlfriend/wife. But I can't imagine there was never a thought amongst the guys when they recorded it way back when that those lyrics seemed to sum up the relationship between Dave and the rest of Van Halen...
"Always one more
You're never satisfied
Never one for all with you
It's only one for me
Oh, why draw the line?
Meet you half the way
And you don't know what that means..."Van Halen/Dave interviews from my archives:
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04.28.07, 09:59 PM #2
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I heard rumors that this be true. ARgh.
Van Halen Reunion Tour
Louisville, Kentucky July 6th, 2004
"It's a little hot in here tonight!"
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04.28.07, 10:07 PM #3
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I dont think its 'bout Dave.
ALEX IS GOD!!!
I've been doin' this for 'bout 20 years now, and I'll tell ya, to this day I still don't know the right drumstick from the left drumstick -Alex Van Halen
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04.29.07, 06:15 PM #4
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Uh... I dunno. I don't think the VH boys were interested in meeting Dave halfway at that point. Well, maybe they were--if it was in the interest of kicking him in the nads.
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04.29.07, 07:59 PM #5
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It would make more sense if the guy writing the lyrics wasn't the only one with no history with Dave.
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04.30.07, 07:38 AM #6
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Its the best VH Song ever!!!!!
and its got nothing to do with Dave I tell youWhat is understood need not be discussed
"Dont disturb my paradise. I've asked you once. I've asked you nice" - "SERIOUS JU JU"
"I am in a blissful state. Dont bug me!!!" - Richard Dreyfuss "The Goodbye girl" 1977
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04.30.07, 07:47 AM #7
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It's about Sam's tennis partner.....
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04.30.07, 02:12 PM #8
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I don't think they were written about Dave, I think if anything Ed said "try to write about a person that's not a team player" or something so they might be indirectly written about Dave. Sam didn't know Dave at all back then so I don't think he could have written about him unless the rest of the band just bitched and bitched about him the whole time so it translated to a song.
I do think it's one of the best VH songs, lyrically, musically..it's really a standout song.
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04.30.07, 02:32 PM #9
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I always thought it was in reference to Sammy's first wife, Betsy...
"20 minutes (late to work)? Shit. Last year I woke up three weeks too late.My advice is to go for the alien abduction story. Look bemused, dishevelled and on the verge of tears as you recount your story of intrusive and degrading medical tests.Worked for me anyway. I still have colleagues asking me what it is like to fuck a green womanoid with seventeen breasts.Alternatively just walk in and inform everyone that alcoholism is indeed a disease and that they should be less judgemental and perhaps a little more supportive."- graeme on the addiction to this place.
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04.30.07, 02:53 PM #10
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I can't see it being about Dave, Betsy seems more plausible to me. Maybe it was written in general about the two of them? A general song about people who take and never give?
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04.30.07, 09:31 PM #11
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05.01.07, 08:18 AM #12
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I don't think it was about Betsy, they seemed to be OK at the time, there used to be an entertainment tonight interview on youtube where Sam talks about how they're still happy after 20+ years, they didn't get divorced until 194ish.
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05.01.07, 10:06 AM #13
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I've just always thought it was about an ex-girlfriend or something. I never made the connection to Dave and I really doubt it's about him.
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05.01.07, 10:35 AM #14
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Depends solely upon how much one reads into it. For instance, after leaving VH, Dave Roth stated in interviews that he'd wished for a parting of the ways in order for the band to take a well deserved rest, sort out some stiffling personal issues (Ed and Al's drinking in particular) then get it back together, like Aerosmith. I'd often wondered if the "why draw the line" (an Aerosmith title) section of the song was aimed at Dave in this regard, followed by the mention that compromise was beyond his reach.
Yet coupled with the very public stance against Roth in interviews at the time (and the live definition of "5150" by Hagar as describing a whacked out, flipped out sort of person), it gets confusing.
I'd always taken the "5150" thing as a comment more about Ed Van Halen's self confessed awareness of his own strangeness (leading him to naming his studio after the phrase), which even Rolling Stone had gone as far as to call "Michael Jacksonly" (back when this was a compliment on musical ability, not a reference to a fondness for young boys). So to title a song "5150" sort of leads one away from any clarity in the matter, and in fact is certainly contradictory.
Are there any published interviews out there with Hagar expounding upon his lyrics? Perhaps that would shed some light on things."The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man."George Bernard Shaw
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05.05.07, 03:12 AM #15
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maybe im crazy, or just too high, but i thought "inside" was more a dig at dave...?
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