Is anyone else starting to think...

[Stuff No More]

... Sammy's back in the band? Okay, I know I'm biased as hell, but I tend to take facts where facts lie.

Fact 1: DLR said he hasn't spoken with them since 7/00.

Fact 2: Mike and Ed both commented that the album is nearing completion and a tour is forthcoming.

Fact 3: Mike said it would be a name we'd all know.

I'm one that wants to put a bit of faith in the band (even though they try their damndest to crush even that). So I'm going to take things at face value and say they've been working on an album with a singer we all know that isn't Dave, and things are probably going to be finished up soon.

So the linchpin is the "someone you all will know" part. That means it has to be a big name a Van Halen fan would be familiar with. I know lots of people are better at compiling a list than I am, and in your spare (hate-filled) time I invite you to do so.

But bottom line is the only thing we've heard from Sammy since the beginning of the year was his new daughter being born.

Sam clams up about the time Dave starts talking.

Coincidence? Maybe. But it's a lot easier for me to be positive about all this looking for the return of a Van Halen we all know - one with the Red Rocker at the helm.

(NOTE: Dave fans, I know you're pissed off, but please, try to stay objective as far as this speculation goes. Thanks [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img])

[MikeL]

You know, Mike's been saying that throughout this whole mess. He first said it in that Dutch interview shortly after Gary left.

[Glenn]

If they are working with Sammy, then why wouldn't Dave tell us that? If Sammy's in, Dave hasn't got a hope in hell of getting back, so why release a neutral press statement like he did?

Plus, there's no way Sammy would be stupid enough to put himself into that situation. If he was in, they'd be idiots not to say so.

[MikeL]

They may very well be idiots given what they've said today. Talented idiots, but idiots none the less.

If Sammy is back, I think VH would have said something. They'd have some leadership again, and wouldn't be treading water like they so obviously are.

[MikeL]

Whoops... I forgot to add something there. If they're thinking that Sammy being back would be a great surprise to spring on us, they'll have seriously miscalculated.

[Glenn]

If they wanted to bring Sammy in, this is the absolute worst way to do it; by having Dave on everyone's mind for a year first.

I just don't see that people are going to run to re-accept Sammy after wanting and believing that Dave was coming back. Talk about putting Sammy right in the line of fire. Just ask Gary Cherone what it's like to be in that position. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[YankeeRose]

I feel the same way as you do Stuff, I think Sammy and VH could be working together again! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

I will gladly accept Sammy in VH after believing Dave could be back Glenn. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]


I WOULD BE SOOOO HAPPY IF SAMMY RE-JOINED VH!!! THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY, UNBELIEVABLY SUPER, AWESOME!!!!LOL! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ April 20, 2001 at 08:46 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

[Glenn]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:
I will gladly accept Sammy in VH after believing Dave could be back Glenn. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, I already had you penciled in for at least one album sale. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[YankeeRose]

LOL! Glenn, i'm sure you would buy it also. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[Darkstar]

I doubt Sam would be that foolish. Besides, didn't Sam have an album out just last fall that he's been touring behind? When would he have had the time to work with the mentally challenged duo of Ed and Al? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

[AbeVanHalen]

If what Brad says is true about them not having a manager, remember that dealing with these sorts of things is a manager's job. Bands hire managers so that they don't have to do these things themselves. Obviously, in this case, you can see why VH needs management.

The band is not full of businessmen or spin doctors. They're musicians. They need outside help with these matters. If they don't have that help, well, we just saw the results.

Either they are being very clever, or very stupid; we'll find out which one soon enough.

One more thing to remember-we've been following their situation for how long now? Day in, day out, the band's status gets some of our brain power. 99.99% of the band's fans do NOT think about it daily; they don't hear all the rumors; they don't analyze the audio or the syntax, etc. We cannot be objective about this situation, because we're too close to the action. None of this is a big deal to anyone (fans included) who don't follow it every day.

I think we're making way too much out of this, at least in terms of how it all affects the grand scheme (if there is one) of what is going on at 5150. We are a minority here; it's just really hard to imagine this scenario from the rest of the world's point of view.

[Glenn]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:
LOL! Glenn, i'm sure you would buy it also. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yankee, I'd buy it on day one even if you were the new singer. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

But I don't think VH can just bring Sammy in after all this time and rumor about Dave and expect a 3 million seller and a sell out arena tour. VH has alienated a lot of fans with this, and Sammy alone only has (from sales indications) around 100 000 buyers.

[Geoff]

Got to admit it looks like Sammy might be back. Clearly they haven't been working with Dave since last year. But wouldn't Dave know? He must have insiders that would know if Sam was back at 5150.

[YankeeRose]

Sammy hasn't toured since January Darkstar, and there haven't been any future tour dates announced since then.

Also from what Bigdog has told me, Paula from Sammy's Official Site, wrote on the SHML, no news, is good news. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Maybe Sammy isn't working with VH, but I have been listening to Journey lately, Don't stop believin', hold on to that feelin'. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] LOL! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[Darkstar]

Truthfully Yankee Rose I wasn't sure. I don't really keep up on Sam. It's funny you mention Journey. I just bought their new disc and the greatest hits live. I can't believe how much their new singer sounds like Steve Perry [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]