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    Question.."How long does it take?"

    How long will it take before Dave gets fired or leaves VH. Think about it ..

    1978-1984= Daves fronts the band, than gets fired or leaves.

    1986-1996= Sam is fired, or leaves the band.

    1996= Dave comes back for the 2 songs off "Greatest Hits"

    1998-1998= Gary is in, and gets fired ASAP

    2004= Sammy is back on board for the 2004 Reunion Tour .. than gets booted off.

    2007 = Dave is back

    2008= ?????????

    What a way to wreck a Legacy! .....1984-1996 is where it should have ended!
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitar5150 View Post
    How long will it take before Dave gets fired or leaves VH. Think about it ..

    1978-1984= Daves fronts the band, than gets fired or leaves.

    1986-1996= Sam is fired, or leaves the band.

    1996= Dave comes back for the 2 songs off "Greatest Hits"

    1998-1998= Gary is in, and gets fired ASAP

    2004= Sammy is back on board for the 2004 Reunion Tour .. than gets booted off.

    2007 = Dave is back

    2008= ?????????

    What a way to wreck a Legacy! .....1984-1996 is where it should have ended!
    Well, you can back-date Dave's involvement at least 2-3 more years before the release of the first album, and Gary was on for more than just a year, but the point is not lost... I think everyone is hoping that Dave gets a few years out of this, and at least one new album... I love Dave, but "Diamond Dave" and the tribute cd were a little rough for my taste...

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    "Diamond Dave" and the tribute cd were a little rough for my taste..."

    Agreed!
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    There will be problems in the studio if they try to write and record. If there's a full-blown producer in charge, that might change how things run. But if it's Ed's studio with Ed producing, we won't be hearing a new Dave-on-vocals VH album.

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    Maybe they should do another covers album. That way, Ed take the song and make it his own and there's no arguing over lyrics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darthadv View Post
    Well, you can back-date Dave's involvement at least 2-3 more years before the release of the first album, and Gary was on for more than just a year, but the point is not lost... I think everyone is hoping that Dave gets a few years out of this, and at least one new album... I love Dave, but "Diamond Dave" and the tribute cd were a little rough for my taste...
    i don't think there's gonna be an album. If all goes well they'll tour, record a couple of songs and add it to some stuff in the vault. Tour again. Record a couple songs and add it to some stuff in the vault. Tour again. Tour again.

    These guys stopped working the second Gary left/was fired. I know most of you hated him but he was the bands last chance to remain a working band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitar5150 View Post
    How long will it take before Dave gets fired or leaves VH. Think about it ..

    1978-1984= Daves fronts the band, than gets fired or leaves.

    1986-1996= Sam is fired, or leaves the band.

    1996= Dave comes back for the 2 songs off "Greatest Hits"

    1998-1998= Gary is in, and gets fired ASAP

    2004= Sammy is back on board for the 2004 Reunion Tour .. than gets booted off.

    2007 = Dave is back

    2008= ?????????

    What a way to wreck a Legacy! .....1984-1996 is where it should have ended!
    I have no idea, but would obviously hope they get enough done for a new record before his ass is kicked to the curb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VHisback View Post
    Maybe they should do another covers album. That way, Ed take the song and make it his own and there's no arguing over lyrics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by it's me View Post
    i don't think there's gonna be an album. If all goes well they'll tour, record a couple of songs and add it to some stuff in the vault. Tour again. Record a couple songs and add it to some stuff in the vault. Tour again. Tour again.

    These guys stopped working the second Gary left/was fired. I know most of you hated him but he was the bands last chance to remain a working band.
    Tour again, record, tour again, record, tour again... So they'll all be 64 when this "new" album comes out?

    You are right that the working band VH ended upon Gary Cherone's dismissal. I would have given VH III take 2 a chance if it meant the band would keep writing/recording/touring.

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    If they are gonna record a new album, they shouldn't do it in 5150, they should do it in a neutral studio with a producer, Eddie just tries to take too much control in 5150 and VH3 and the porn tracks is what we get.

    BTW Dave looks great in the new band photo, l hope he keeps that look up.

    Scott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riddick View Post
    BTW Dave looks great in the new band photo, l hope he keeps that look up.
    Yup... his hair almost looks real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewThomas.net View Post
    There will be problems in the studio if they try to write and record. If there's a full-blown producer in charge, that might change how things run. But if it's Ed's studio with Ed producing, we won't be hearing a new Dave-on-vocals VH album.
    As silly as it sounds, I think EVH will tolerate DLR as long as Wolfgang wants him in the band!

    If this line-up lasts long enough to produce an album, they'll probably wind up getting Glenn Ballard.

    If WVH enjoys the older stuff, the chances are pretty good any new stuff will be in that same vein. Maybe someone should turn that kid on to some of the early unreleased demos that have been floating around.

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    I personally don't think there will ever be another VH record. Ed's approach to recording changed around 1990 in a way that made it difficult to complete projects. Each of the first eight records was recorded rapidly. IMO, that's how most great records are made. But FUCK took a year, and although I love that album, I think it could have sounded less labored if there were less overdubbing. And I remember reading that the album could have taken even longer than a year. I recollect reading that WB called in Ted Templeman, and he went in and told EVH to stop screwing around and finish the record, that they weren't making a double album. Then Bruce Fairbairn whipped the guys into finishing Balance in four months. But he died, and 3 took the band well over a year to record. Subsequently, Sammy has said that the music for the 3 new songs in 2004 took a disproportionately long time to record. I believe him. In "It's About Time" and "Learning To See" in particular, there is too much busyness, too much overdubbing. So, it's been nearly 12 years since VH "banged out" a record under the supervision of an excellent producer. It's been nearly 19 years since they "banged out" a record in a reasonably short period of time themselves. If it takes VH at least a year to make an album given their current recording methodology, another record will never happen, because these guys are too volatile personalities to stand each other for that long. A new album depends on the guys recovering their ability to go into the studio and crank out an album in a few weeks to a few months. This requires a drive, dedication, stability and mentality that I think EVH has lost.

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    Its a long way off to start thinking about music but if they can stay civil towards each other here is what I want them to do. I said this about 8 months again but it still applies.

    Record away from 5150 and go to wherever this place is



    Get Ted and Donn back to produce the songs.

    Tell them they only have 14 days to record. Buckcherry's last album was recorded in 15 days so its still is possible to do this on a short schedule.

    Try and get Mike back but if its not going to work then go ahead with Teen Wolf. Any music is better than no music unless its HMSI.

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