Incentive to See VH With Wolgang?

**Apocalypso** · 01.28.07, 09:46 AM

Playing the entire Fair Warning album in the middle of the set.

I'm going anyway for a show or perhaps two depending on how the reviews of the first few shows pan out, but for those who are at this time sitting out the tour because of the Mike-less situation, would it make a difference if the band did something unusual like playing a classic Roth era album in it's entirety (and competently), especially one like FW?

T.B.

**Van Halens** · 01.28.07, 10:04 AM

Something unusual like hand-out CDs of the songs that CVH did in 2000 to all concert-goers? Hmmm......

**simplerhym** · 01.28.07, 10:44 AM

both of those are good ideas, though the first seems more likely. I try to be optimistic, but both ideas are also very 'Un-VH' and unless they actually listen to some promoters, PR guys, etc, it's just a dream.

**TheArchitect** · 01.28.07, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Apocalypso

Playing the entire Fair Warning album in the middle of the set.

I'm going anyway for a show or perhaps two depending on how the reviews of the first few shows pan out, but for those who are at this time sitting out the tour because of the Mike-less situation, would it make a difference if the band did something unusual like playing a classic Roth era album in it's entirety (and competently), especially one like FW?

T.B.

No. Eddie demonstrated quite clearly in 04 that he is done. The mike thing is just icing. They will need to release a solid studio CD to demonstrate there is anything left in the tank. Even then its questionable. There are so many great players out there. Eddie just ain't "the man" anymore.

**vcooper3** · 01.28.07, 10:49 AM

I would be happy hearing some other gems off of Fair Warning like Hear About It Later or Sinner's Swing. That would be pretty f-n awesome.

**vhrocker** · 01.28.07, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by vcooper3

I would be happy hearing some other gems off of Fair Warning like Hear About It Later or Sinner's Swing. That would be pretty f-n awesome.

That would be very awesome!!!

**Mikey Metalhead** · 01.28.07, 11:07 AM

a NEW FULL CD, that I like, then I would be a little more excited maybe

**dart93** · 01.28.07, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by TheArchitect

No. Eddie demonstrated quite clearly in 04 that he is done. The mike thing is just icing. They will need to release a solid studio CD to demonstrate there is anything left in the tank. Even then its questionable. There are so many great players out there. Eddie just ain't "the man" anymore.

My friend, who are these "great players"? Current rock is all barre chords and pedestrian soloing, as far as I can tell. I agree, Eddie was off his game in 2004 because he was drunk all the time. On the 1998 tour, however, his playing was revelatory, regardless of how bad "III" was. I am convinced that, so long as Eddie is sober, there really isn't anyone who can touch him on guitar.

**willy4pres** · 01.28.07, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by TheArchitect

No. Eddie demonstrated quite clearly in 04 that he is done. The mike thing is just icing. They will need to release a solid studio CD to demonstrate there is anything left in the tank. Even then its questionable. There are so many great players out there. Eddie just ain't "the man" anymore.

I think most of us would put Ed in with the big 3 guitar players regarding style, talent, and importance. Let's break it down to a list for all time:

Hendrix
Clapton
Beck
Ed
Page (though Page is more known regarding production, he was never much of a guitar player when compared to the above list).

If it was my list entirely I would list Ed right behind Hendrix because of his importance but the order isnt as important as who's on the list.

Of those guys who is on HIS game more so then Edward? Honestly.

I would argue Beck and that's about it. BUT, I like old Beck more then current Beck. Don't get into the fingerstyle thing personally. Hendrix is dead so his playing has gone way down hill, and Clapton hasn't done anything cool since Nixon was in office. Last time I checked Ed has written guitar related music within the last 16 years that MANY people loved, when was the last time Clapton, Beck, and Page did that?

Some of you guys need to run to your nearest automotive parts dealership and order a clue. Sure Ed isn't what he used to be, but he's more himself then nearly all the other living guitar players of his stature.

And please, if anyone out there is thinking of including Blackmore, Rhoads and Malmsteen into the conversation immediatly kick yourself in the balls, twice. Sure, I love them as much as anyone but they were NOT that important. Regardless, Rhoads is dead so he can't play that good anymore. Blackmore gave his nuts to his trophy wife, and Malmsteen figures he learned everything he needed to know about guitar when he was 18.

Im sure there are some young guitar players out there that can do the Ed thing better then the man himself these days. Once they turn the guitar world on it's ear and write 40 outstanding song's that millions of people love (all of it within a 6 year period) we can include them in the discussion.

Cut Ed a break. He's a nutty asshole that's ruining the Van Halen legacy but he's still one of the greatest and most important guitar players alive.

**C5150** · 01.28.07, 01:32 PM

Being able to buy the show you are at on CD, then thay mix it, then send it to you in the mail!
I did this at the Who, Metalica, and Kiss shows! you can picture the show as you listen! Awsome!!!
I forgot the name of the company that does this but very cool!

**Faster Eddie** · 01.29.07, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Apocalypso

Playing the entire Fair Warning album in the middle of the set.

I'm going anyway for a show or perhaps two depending on how the reviews of the first few shows pan out, but for those who are at this time sitting out the tour because of the Mike-less situation, would it make a difference if the band did something unusual like playing a classic Roth era album in it's entirety (and competently), especially one like FW?

T.B.

Yes! I've also been thinking about if they did an album in it's entirety and if they were to do something that cool, I would DEFINITLEY be more inclined to attend.

"Fair Warning" would be best because track-to-track it's more like a complete peice of music. "Van Halen I" and "1984" would be great too.

Even the most fair-weather VH fans own those two albums!

**mikelong** · 01.29.07, 05:44 PM

Page (though Page is more known regarding production, he was never much of a guitar player when compared to the above list).

Are you serious????

**Pumpkinhead** · 01.29.07, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Apocalypso

Playing the entire Fair Warning album in the middle of the set.

I'm going anyway for a show or perhaps two depending on how the reviews of the first few shows pan out, but for those who are at this time sitting out the tour because of the Mike-less situation, would it make a difference if the band did something unusual like playing a classic Roth era album in it's entirety (and competently), especially one like FW?

T.B.

Nice try, but ummmmmmmmmmm......

< NO FUCKING WAY!

**willy4pres** · 01.29.07, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by mikelong

Page (though Page is more known regarding production, he was never much of a guitar player when compared to the above list).

Are you serious????

Ummmmmm, yes? Just because you like a guys music that doesn't make him a great musician brother. Among musicians Page is more revered for his production talents then his sloppy guitar playing (I do love it though).

**Ian Sane** · 01.29.07, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Apocalypso

Playing the entire Fair Warning album in the middle of the set.

I'm going anyway for a show or perhaps two depending on how the reviews of the first few shows pan out, but for those who are at this time sitting out the tour because of the Mike-less situation, would it make a difference if the band did something unusual like playing a classic Roth era album in it's entirety (and competently), especially one like FW?

T.B.

There is only one way the band with Wolfie would give me the incentive to see them live. Pay ME a lot of money...

Nothing under 7 figures.