Van Halen: Second Cherone Working Titles

**Ain't Talkin' Bout' Love** · 11.29.06, 08:54 PM

I just wondered if you guys knew of these, apparently the titles of some Cherone VH tunes that were going to be on the next album:

The working title was apparently "Love Again"

Tracks:

1. Left For Dead (eventual Tribe of Judah track)
2. River Wide
3. Say Uncle
4. You Wear It Well
5. More Then Yesterday
6. I Don't Miss You....Much
7. Love Divine
8. From Here, Where Do We Go?

This info is on wikipedia if you search Van Halen. Anybody know anything about any of this or any track in particular?

AT · 11.29.06, 09:48 PM

Those were all posted to the VH website when it was active with updates on the "new album" progress. That was back in '99, of course. They completed two tracks with Patrick Leonard producing, and they had hired Danny Kortchmar with whom they were working when Cherone quit/was asked to leave. So there were definietly tracks that were done and probably some in progress. As per the usual, we will probably never hear them.

**Raldo** · 11.30.06, 04:29 AM

Certainly would be nice to have heard them. I guess that mystery is for another day.

**smithtone** · 11.30.06, 04:46 AM

I can't prove it, but I'd guess that EVH built the three new songs from BOBW from some of the "sections" from these Cherone tunes. I never believed the "10 albums of material" spin.

I remember being surprised the first time I heard the 25-song Warner Bros. demo and all the little recognizable pieces that later turned up on VH albums in completely different songs. So in a way, my guess is that we probably have heard a bit of those Cherone songs on BOBW and may hear more on other future releases. (try not to laugh too hard)

**bb3000ma** · 11.30.06, 05:36 AM

If you go to the link below and then click on the "new album" link at the top, there is a bit of info on some of the tracks.

http://web.archive.org/web/199910130....com/main.html

You can also go to that same link, go to old news - then go to 1998 old news, and click on the 1/16/98 entry for the making of VH3. You will see a few of the tracks that were left off of VH3 at the bottom of the page.

**Rovus** · 11.30.06, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ain't Talkin' Bout' Love

I just wondered if you guys knew of these, apparently the titles of some Cherone VH tunes that were going to be on the next album:

The working title was apparently "Love Again"

Tracks:

1. Left For Dead (eventual Tribe of Judah track)
2. River Wide
3. Say Uncle
4. You Wear It Well
5. More Then Yesterday
6. I Don't Miss You....Much
7. Love Divine
8. From Here, Where Do We Go?

This info is on wikipedia if you search Van Halen. Anybody know anything about any of this or any track in particular?

'You Wear It Well' the band said at the time had an amazing tapping intro. Gary said that 'Left For Dead' had "one of the most up tempo songs" the band had done. And as you said, the song eventually wound up on Tribe Of Judah. 'Say Uncle' was said to be about "a dominant woman and willing, submissive man."

Here are some other tracks that were poised for the follow-up album:

Rock And Roll Cliche
I Want Her Anyway
That's Why I Love Ya (new version)

**Simon Ribeiro** · 12.01.06, 04:30 AM

I like reading all these stuffs about the 2nd record from VH 3rd incarnation.
Thanks for link, BB3000MA.

One doubt; wasn't it said that "Learning to See" is the song previously known as "Between Us Two / Closer to You"?

**Wolfgang_'99** · 12.01.06, 10:44 AM

I would love to here these songs, I dont know what people have against gary! If these tracks are ever leaked I will be very happy.

**belikemike** · 12.01.06, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Wolfgang_'99

I would love to here these songs, I dont know what people have against gary! If these tracks are ever leaked I will be very happy.

I think most everybody would. I was very interested to see what volume II of mach III would sound like. Let's hope someday, somebody gets a hold of this stuff and lets it out. From what I've read around here, it doesn't sound like to many of these songs were actually completed.

**mrfibb** · 12.02.06, 12:41 PM

Just thought this was funny. In the web archive of old news there was this post:

Update 01/14/98: The Inside Track section of today's Boston Herald reports a host of ridiculous claims including Gary planning on leaving the band once III is released, Michael being fired, and Warner Bros. being unhappy with not only the first planned single Without You but the entire album.

Rest assured, 99% of the article is COMPLETELY UNTRUE. The only correct piece of information in the entire writeup is the new March 17 release date. Read the Reschedule report for all the details regarding III's rescheduling.

Funny how things turned out huh?

http://web.archive.org/web/199910130....com/main.html

**zsat777** · 12.03.06, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ain't Talkin' Bout' Love

I just wondered if you guys knew of these, apparently the titles of some Cherone VH tunes that were going to be on the next album:

The working title was apparently "Love Again"

Tracks:

1. Left For Dead (eventual Tribe of Judah track)
2. River Wide
3. Say Uncle
4. You Wear It Well
5. More Then Yesterday
6. I Don't Miss You....Much
7. Love Divine
8. From Here, Where Do We Go?

This info is on wikipedia if you search Van Halen. Anybody know anything about any of this or any track in particular?

A song titled 'Sad Celibate' was there also.

zsat
"Sea, sex, sun and rock'n roll..." outch!

**Foamfoot** · 12.03.06, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Simon Ribeiro

One doubt; wasn't it said that "Learning to See" is the song previously known as "Between Us Two / Closer to You"?

I've heard that as well...

**KRAMER5150** · 12.03.06, 08:57 PM

i thought closer to you

**titoshow** · 03.20.07, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by zsat777

A song titled 'Sad Celibate' was there also.

zsat
"Sea, sex, sun and rock'n roll..." outch!

Left For Dead turned into a Tribe Of Judah song, i also think Celibate turned into a TOJ song (there´s a song on Exit Elvis named "Celibate"), "You Wear It Well" could be "Ambiguos Headdress" from Exit Elvis too since the sentence "You Wear It Well" leds the song all the way and "River Wide" ( "It's about a dominant woman and a willing, submissive man."Gary Cherone) could be "In My Dreams".

**MF5150** · 03.20.07, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by smithtone

I can't prove it, but I'd guess that EVH built the three new songs from BOBW from some of the "sections" from these Cherone tunes. I never believed the "10 albums of material" spin.

I remember being surprised the first time I heard the 25-song Warner Bros. demo and all the little recognizable pieces that later turned up on VH albums in completely different songs. So in a way, my guess is that we probably have heard a bit of those Cherone songs on BOBW and may hear more on other future releases. (try not to laugh too hard)

You can't prove it...but I agree. Up for Breakfast could have easily been on VH III. The chord changes...the sound. It's About Time as well.

It's more of Ed's music that we'll hear...not Cherone's songs. Cherone didn't write the guitar parts.