Carmine Appice On Ed/VH...

**Otis5150** · 10.06.06, 10:41 AM

From Blabbermouth:

http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth....wsitemID=59862

**servoguy101** · 10.06.06, 10:48 AM

these days, everyone has an opinion...

**ED-A-HOLIC** · 10.06.06, 11:03 AM

Never heard of Cactus before this interview.

But hey VH could be influenced by alot, the difference is that VAN HALEN influenced THE REST.

**chefcraig** · 10.06.06, 11:14 AM

Say what you want about Appice, yet he has the resume' to back up what he is saying. He drummed for Vanilla Fudge, Cactus and Beck, Bogert and Appice. Not to mention having to play alongside the nutjob that Bogert was, who often was not concerned with playing the root notes, or the other duties normally assigned to a bass player.

Blackmore and Jon Lord freely admit that Deep Purple were essentially copying the "Fudge in their early days. The members of Led Zeppelin (particularly Bonham) forged a strong friendship with Appice, when the two bands toured together. Bonham went so far as to compliment Carmine for his double bass drum work on the 'Fudge's cover of (The Beatles) "Ticket To Ride", which Bonham copied and used with Zep. Appice was blown away, as Bonham was doing the same fill on one bass drum!

And what did he say that is so unbelieveable? I feel the same way about older bands that seldom get the credit that they deserve for their innovations or achievements.

At this point, I'd say the guy has got some credibility.

...craig

**Otis5150** · 10.06.06, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by chefcraig

Say what you want about Appice, yet he has the resume' to back up what he is saying. He drummed for Vanilla Fudge, Cactus and Beck, Bogert and Appice. Not to mention having to play alongside the nutjob that Bogert was, who often was not concerned with playing the root notes, or the other duties normally assigned to a bass player.

Blackmore and Jon Lord freely admit that Deep Purple were essentially copying the "Fudge in their early days. The members of Led Zeppelin (particularly Bonham) forged a strong friendship with Appice, when the two bands toured together. Bonham went so far as to compliment Carmine for his double bass drum work on the 'Fudge's cover of (The Beatles) "Ticket To Ride", which Bonham copied and used with Zep. Appice was blown away, as Bonham was doing the same fill on one bass drum!

And what did he say that is so unbelieveable? I feel the same way about older bands that seldom get the credit that they deserve for their innovations or achievements.

At this point, I'd say the guy has got some credibility.

...craig

Right on chef! Appice definitely has the resume. Don't forget Rod Stewart, Ted Nugent, Ozzy and just about anyone who's ever hired a studio drummer....

**onefootoutthedoor** · 10.06.06, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by chefcraig

Say what you want about Appice, yet he has the resume' to back up what he is saying. He drummed for Vanilla Fudge, Cactus and Beck, Bogert and Appice. Not to mention having to play alongside the nutjob that Bogert was, who often was not concerned with playing the root notes, or the other duties normally assigned to a bass player.

Blackmore and Jon Lord freely admit that Deep Purple were essentially copying the "Fudge in their early days. The members of Led Zeppelin (particularly Bonham) forged a strong friendship with Appice, when the two bands toured together. Bonham went so far as to compliment Carmine for his double bass drum work on the 'Fudge's cover of (The Beatles) "Ticket To Ride", which Bonham copied and used with Zep. Appice was blown away, as Bonham was doing the same fill on one bass drum!

And what did he say that is so unbelieveable? I feel the same way about older bands that seldom get the credit that they deserve for their innovations or achievements.

At this point, I'd say the guy has got some credibility.

...craig

Exactly. Great post, Chef.

**Brett** · 10.06.06, 11:53 AM

Everyone was influenced by someone, even VH. Nothing that shocking about what he said.

**Otis5150** · 10.06.06, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Brett

Everyone was influenced by someone, even VH. Nothing that shocking about what he said.

Nothing new either, unfortunately...

**Apocalypso** · 10.06.06, 12:07 PM

One thing that perhaps someone can clarify for me that Appice mentions is regarding Cactus' song "Let Me Swim" and his comment that the beginning of "Eruption" has some similarity to it. This leads to the question of the old pre Warner Bros VH demo/live song sometimes known as "Let Me Swim In Your Ocean" being either influenced by or a direct cover of the Cactus song. As I've never heard the Cactus version, can anyone who has say if there's any similarity at all between the two songs?

T.B.

**Rocket** · 10.06.06, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by chefcraig

Say what you want about Appice, yet he has the resume' to back up what he is saying. He drummed for Vanilla Fudge, Cactus and Beck, Bogert and Appice. Not to mention having to play alongside the nutjob that Bogert was, who often was not concerned with playing the root notes, or the other duties normally assigned to a bass player.

Blackmore and Jon Lord freely admit that Deep Purple were essentially copying the "Fudge in their early days. The members of Led Zeppelin (particularly Bonham) forged a strong friendship with Appice, when the two bands toured together. Bonham went so far as to compliment Carmine for his double bass drum work on the 'Fudge's cover of (The Beatles) "Ticket To Ride", which Bonham copied and used with Zep. Appice was blown away, as Bonham was doing the same fill on one bass drum!

And what did he say that is so unbelieveable? I feel the same way about older bands that seldom get the credit that they deserve for their innovations or achievements.

At this point, I'd say the guy has got some credibility.

...craig

Nice history lesson, great stuff I never knew, thanks.

**the_atomic_punks_rule** · 10.06.06, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Rocket

Nice history lesson, great stuff I never knew, thanks.

its not shocking though....geez!

**Onirb** · 10.06.06, 07:25 PM

A couple of years ago I emailed Carmine some EVH questions and some others. He is a standup guy. Unfortunately I would go with what he said.

**Little Dreamer** · 10.08.06, 01:39 AM

I don't know if we can believe everything he says (HFT inspired by a song named "Parchman Farm"... what kinda name is this??), but one new element is that Ed has supposedly bought some porn company. I imagine he's talking about Ninn Works. Before we heard of a co-producing deal, but it's the first time I heard he has bought part of the company. Troubling.

**tease** · 10.08.06, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Little Dreamer

I don't know if we can believe everything he says (HFT inspired by a song named "Parchman Farm"... what kinda name is this??), but one new element is that Ed has supposedly bought some porn company. I imagine he's talking about Ninn Works. Before we heard of a co-producing deal, but it's the first time I heard he has bought part of the company. Troubling.

The "movie" also lists Eddie as the executive producer, so there may be truth to it.

**chain** · 10.08.06, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Little Dreamer

I don't know if we can believe everything he says (HFT inspired by a song named "Parchman Farm"... what kinda name is this??), but one new element is that Ed has supposedly bought some porn company. I imagine he's talking about Ninn Works. Before we heard of a co-producing deal, but it's the first time I heard he has bought part of the company. Troubling.

Smart investment.....Billions a year made off the porn industry. Why not have a nice slice of if since he's traveling down that road anyway? If I was newly single, rich as hell, and could do damn near anything I wanted, I'd be investing in all kinds of shit, including porn. My only issue with this porn stuff is that the music, in my most humble opinion is sub-par for one EVH. Hopefully we'll be hearing more in the future. Within porn or without....Bring it on, Ed!!!