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06.15.06, 02:36 PM #1
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Here we go...
Is this truly necessary?
Judiciary Committe Sends Flag-Burning Amendment to the Senate Floor
The Supreme Court has already said this flag burning is free speech protected under the 1st amendment. Congress just doesn't get it.
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06.15.06, 02:55 PM #2
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I really need to rethink this one. All this time I thought they were talking about 'fag burning'. Geez, I feel like a dunce.
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Bill Clinton burned our flag; he set such a good example for us to practice free speech. not.
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06.15.06, 03:29 PM #4
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Wouldn't it be smarter/sneakier to pass a federal regualtion that mandates flags be made out of non-flamable matierial?
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06.15.06, 04:13 PM #5
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Originally Posted by BradS
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06.15.06, 04:21 PM #6
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Originally Posted by ZORBA5150
As a former serviceman, it's fine with me that people can burn a flag. That's different than thinking that it's ok to burn a flag. When a person burns a flag, they show a decided lack of respect and understanding for the freedoms they take for granted. They don't appreciate the history that delivered those freedoms. When someone burns a flag, the only message it sends is that the burner is a scumbag without respect for anything that America actually represents.
That said, I really wish Congress would concentrate on doing their jobs a bit better. When they spend time, energy, and money on superfluous, emotionally charged issues that don't actually accomplish anything they should be turned out of office.
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It's election year pandering, that's all it is.
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Originally Posted by Guitar Shark
My point was that the Supreme Court made it pretty clear, and that we should just leave it alone.Last edited by BradS; 06.15.06 at 04:26 PM.
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Originally Posted by BradS
It's very common for certain groups to seek Constitutional amendments after they are irritated by Supreme Court decisions, even "pretty clear" ones.
One example that comes to mind is that the Supreme Court upheld slavery for a long time (Dred Scott case, if I'm not mistaken). It was a constitutional amendment that ultimately prohibited slavery.
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Originally Posted by BradS
If they're concerned with respecting the flag, there are much more positive steps that they could take. I've never seen a flag burned, but I sure have seen them neglected. If someone is going to fly a flag, they need to do it the right way. If it's not lit up at night, it needs to come down during that time. If it's tattered and threadbare, it needs to be properly disposed of. How many of those "I'm so patriotic! Look, I have a flag" post-9/11 flags were ever properly cared for? I say fine the fucks that can't show enough respect to fly it properly. There's a lot of neglect out there.
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Originally Posted by Guitar Shark
Slavery and flag burning are not even close to being the same thing.Last edited by BradS; 06.15.06 at 04:34 PM.
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Originally Posted by BradS
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GS isn't saying that the two are clode to being the same thing, Brad. He's saying that the reasons for Amendments rather than legislation are similar.
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Originally Posted by MikeL
I have never seen one burned either except on television, and I think that people who do it are scum, but if we start taking something like the flag, and forcing people to not be able to burn it if they wish, then we are crossing a line. What will be next? An amendment that prohibits being able to say the United States sucks?Last edited by BradS; 06.15.06 at 04:40 PM.
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The supreme court also said the goverment can take your property for any reason they deem fit...imminent domain....doesnt make it right. As a American I dont burn flags but I think it should not be a criminal offense we have a bill of rights. Thats what makes us better than the rest.
Damn!!! May he rest in peace. :(
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