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    Eatery's English-only sign raises ire By Jon Hurdle
    Fri Jun 9, 9:32 AM ET

    PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - A sign in a landmark Philadelphia restaurant asking customers to order in English is sparking controversy in the metropolis known as the "City of Brotherly Love."

    The owner of Geno's Steaks said on Thursday that the sign, "This is America -- when ordering speak English," is intended to encourage immigrants to learn the language and assimilate into U.S. society, but one Latino activist said it's racist.

    The controversy comes amid a national debate over immigration in the United States. The U.S. Senate passed an immigration bill last month that includes a provision which would make English the national language.

    "They should be glad that I put the sign up. I'm trying to help them to speak English," said Joey Vento, 66, whose grandparents moved to the United States from Italy. "Without the English language, they are going to have a lot of problems in this country.

    "There is nobody who can say they are turned down because of the language," he added. "They can point if they want to."

    The sign, which Vento posted at his cheese steak restaurant about six months ago and says he has no intention of removing, has made some people angry.

    Roberto Santiago, executive director of Philadelphia's Council of Spanish Speaking Organizations, said he was "appalled" by the policy.

    "I think what's coming out of his mouth is racist," said Santiago. "He is saying, 'I don't like these brown faces in my community and I will do everything I can to get them out of there.'"

    Santiago said he has urged Latinos to boycott Geno's Steaks, a fixture in South Philadelphia's Little Italy neighborhood which has seen an influx of Hispanic immigrants in recent years.

    Vento denied that anyone would be refused service if they ordered one of the sliced beef-and-cheese sandwiches, a famed bit of cuisine in the Quaker-founded "City of Brotherly Love," in a language other than English.

    Tony Luke, co-owner of competitor Tony Luke's restaurant, said Vento has taken "too much of a hard line" with non-English-speaking customers.

    "You can't be expected to learn English in a week," he said. "We will be a lot more tolerant than that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVH FANATIC
    This is America -- when ordering speak English

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    Eatery's English-only sign raises ire By Jon Hurdle
    Fri Jun 9, 9:32 AM ET

    PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - A sign in a landmark Philadelphia restaurant asking customers to order in English is sparking controversy in the metropolis known as the "City of Brotherly Love."

    The owner of Geno's Steaks said on Thursday that the sign, "This is America -- when ordering speak English," is intended to encourage immigrants to learn the language and assimilate into U.S. society, but one Latino activist said it's racist.

    The controversy comes amid a national debate over immigration in the United States. The U.S. Senate passed an immigration bill last month that includes a provision which would make English the national language.

    "They should be glad that I put the sign up. I'm trying to help them to speak English," said Joey Vento, 66, whose grandparents moved to the United States from Italy. "Without the English language, they are going to have a lot of problems in this country.

    "There is nobody who can say they are turned down because of the language," he added. "They can point if they want to."

    The sign, which Vento posted at his cheese steak restaurant about six months ago and says he has no intention of removing, has made some people angry.

    Roberto Santiago, executive director of Philadelphia's Council of Spanish Speaking Organizations, said he was "appalled" by the policy.

    "I think what's coming out of his mouth is racist," said Santiago. "He is saying, 'I don't like these brown faces in my community and I will do everything I can to get them out of there.'"

    Santiago said he has urged Latinos to boycott Geno's Steaks, a fixture in South Philadelphia's Little Italy neighborhood which has seen an influx of Hispanic immigrants in recent years.

    Vento denied that anyone would be refused service if they ordered one of the sliced beef-and-cheese sandwiches, a famed bit of cuisine in the Quaker-founded "City of Brotherly Love," in a language other than English.

    Tony Luke, co-owner of competitor Tony Luke's restaurant, said Vento has taken "too much of a hard line" with non-English-speaking customers.

    "You can't be expected to learn English in a week," he said. "We will be a lot more tolerant than that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVH FANATIC
    "I think what's coming out of his mouth is racist," said Santiago. "He is saying, 'I don't like these brown faces in my community and I will do everything I can to get them out of there.'"
    Good job, Mr. Santiago. I love when people put words into other people's mouths.

    I am all for tolerance and I like seeing two or three languages on products and signs. Isn't it odd, though, that there are American-made products one can buy at the grocery or department store that have the Spanish ingredients and instructions printed the same size as, and brighter than the English? There was even a piece of machinery at my old job that was printed in Spanish first, then below, smaller, in English. Yes, it was made and used in the USA only.

    If I was travelling to a country, let alone MOVING there, I would learn enough of the language to get around. I don't think it is unreasonable to expect people to speak the language of the nation in which they live.

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    That sign wouldn't have passed our anti-discrimination laws.

    I agree with what the guys is saying but couldn't he just have waited until someone ordered in another language and then asked them to order in english....
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    I love it! Saw this on CNN yesterday. You are in America..... learn some damn English!
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    i agree...you wanna live here, speak the language or get the fuck out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sisca
    i agree...you wanna live here, speak the language or get the fuck out!
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    I have a story...

    My brother and I were down in Vallejo, CA near Infineon Raceway aka Sears Point... My brother was there racing and I was along for the ride. We were staying at the Best Western and decided to venture to Burger King which was at the end of the parking lot. We get there and everyone there was Mexican. They ended up having to get the dishwasher out of the back to translate so we could order our shit... Now where I come from, the last person who would know English would be the dishwasher... I couldn't freakin' believe it! I think California should've been called New Mexico, it would've fit better!!!

    This raises a question...

    So when people in Philly order their steaks "wit"... What the fuck is "wit"? I guess they need to be more specific and say if someone wants to order there, they gotta learn Phillyonics...
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    Well not to start a controversy or stir the pot, I seem to recall that all Native Americans were not allowed to speak their own language or else they were punished, way back when of course. This resulted in an almost total loss of the various Native languages by the upcoming generations but it's slowly returning. But English is the primary language for all Native Americans now. If only the early Americans coulda bent over backwards to accomodate the Native Americans in preserving their own languages like they are with the Hispanics. Nothing was changed to assimilate the Natives into the dominant society.

    Now it's like if you speak English you're a minority with all of the Spanish that's out there. I agree with TP, learn some English and as Sisca said, or get the eff out!! And they want all of these considerations and rights and what-not???? I don't get it. They should consider themselves damn lucky they're not Native Americans, Hispanics get everything translated for them. English s/b made the official language for the USA. I thought it already was but guess it's not?

    When I call the phone company their automated system tells you everything first in Spanish - which I don't wanna hear - before they tell you anything in English. What's THAT about??
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithjc
    When I call the phone company their automated system tells you everything first in Spanish - which I don't wanna hear - before they tell you anything in English. What's THAT about??
    See, that's what I don't understand, other languages being FIRST. English is spoken by 82.1% of the population. Last time I checked, 82.1% falls in the category of "majority". I'm not mad about other languages being present, but I don't think they should override English.

    And you're right, there is no federal official language. If instituted now, I would imagine that the federal languages would be both English and Spanish.
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    There definitely needs to be a federal mandate to make English the official language. It's getting out of hand. Hispanics are slowly but surely becoming the majority, if things continue as they are.

    Here in America, it's English.
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    The big problem is getting Americans to speak proper English!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Poundcake
    I love it! Saw this on CNN yesterday. You are in America..... learn some damn English!
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    This is in my neck of the woods. This guy who owns the place is a tremendous guy. Sure, he's loaded,b ut he's earned every penny..he is generous to a fault. He even spends time each yr, staying open, making sandwiches, etc and then gives ALL the proceeds to the Sports teams charities. You gotta remember, in one day, this guy can easily clear $25 grand..

    And to make sure everyone gets this accurately, the sign says to please order in english and that mgmt reserves the right to refuse service to anyone...

    I take my hat off to the guy, and he's the right man to be making the statement as well.

    If you expect Americans to understand you, then speak english. If you dont speak it and they dont understand you, that's YOUR problem to solve, not ours.
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    Tony Luke is right, and his sammiches are MUCH better than Geno's.

    That's all I have to add on the subject.
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