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I found this on the Rolling Stone web site. It is in the Nirvan a archive under "last sessions":
"At a dinner break at a local pizza parlor, Cobain told road stories, including how one night a drunk Eddie Van Halen had ventured backstage at a Nirvana show and begged to jam. The tale brought on a laughing fit from Cobain. "It was funnier than hell," says studio owner Robert Lang."
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Yawn... Heard it a million times before. No surprise really. Eddie is a jam hound. This guy has jammed with everyone from Steve Vai to Les Paul, Allan Holdsworth to Frank Zappa, Carlos Santana to Brian May. Many of which have seeked him out to play. The fact he dug Nirvana and showed up to say hi and jam is not surprising in the least. It does suck that he was, supposedly anyways, pretty wasted. I just love how they want to make it out to seem like Eddie was 'begging' the mighty Nirvana..lol..
They want to make it out like if Eddie and Van Halen was washed up or something?
Van Halen had just released the F.U.C.K. album in late 1991, which went to no. 1 and went multi-platinum. In fact, that was their 9th consecutive multi-platinum album in their career. They won Video of the Year at the MTV awards in late 1992 for the groundbreaking video for "Right Now". This is all going on at the same time Nirvana exploded onto the scene in late 1991 with Nevermind.
VH then released a double live cd in 93', Live Right Here Right Now, that also went mutli-platinum, their 10th multi-platinum album in a row! They had just come off another major tour(1991-1992) selling out arenas everywhere and taking Alice In Chains on the road with them as an opening act. They also had that secret gig at the Whiskey in L.A. in March 1993 to celebrate their 15th aniversary in the biz, since they debuted in 1978. When L.A. radio leaked word of this gig the streets of L.A. was flocked by thousands of rabid VH fans rushing to the Whiskey, it was almost a damn riot! There is video of this if ya want proof.. Check out the live version of the video for Dreams from 1993.
This is all as Nirvana & grunge is ruling the world. VH also went on to have no. 1 multi- platinum albums in 1995, 'Balance', and 1996, their first 'Greatest Hits'.
So as far as Eddie VH wanting to jam, it aint nothing more than that- He liked Nirvana amd wanted to jam, period... Just as many have showed up to VH shows and begged to jam too..
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Eddie likes to play. That is his life. Rock and Roll = Fun= Jamming on a guitar, whaen that's what you do.
Kurt Cobain = Dead = No More Fun.
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Kurt Cobain was no fun those last couple of years when he was alive either.......
Q: Recording the album took so long your Australian tour last year was cancelled. What was it like in the studio? There's a history of tension between you and Eddie Van Halen...
DLR: It was like a stand off in a Chuck Norris movie. We each had the laser dot on everybody's forehead waiting for the other guy to blink. Except for Wolfie, he had a Super Soaker ...
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1995 Rolling Stone Interview
"what did you think of Cobain as a player?
EVH: It didn't matter how good or bad he was. It was just his feel that moved me. There's no particular technical proficiency, but it didn't matter. I loved his voice and his songs. It came from his heart. It was real. "
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People get so defensive about Nirvana around here. I thought the story was funny because a guy who was a heroin addict thought Eddie was really wasted. He must have really been out there.
Who cares how many records Van Halen sold or Nirvana sold?
But I'll tell you what: ten years after Nirvana was on the charts, you can still here their influence in modern music. No one is tapping anymore, at least outside players posting at this site.
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Originally posted by famac@nuveen.com:
But I'll tell you what: ten years after Nirvana was on the charts, you can still here their influence in modern music. No one is tapping anymore, at least outside players posting at this site.
The fact is very few players even attempt to have any kind of technical ability at all anymore, just hammer out some power chords, call yourself a genius. Whatever. At least a little proficiency would be nice from someone, nobody is asking for shredder-mania all over again. How about any semblance of tone, feel, vibrato, something? Yes Cobain's music has certainly helped kill all of that, yep that's great.
And Van Halen must be influencing someone, all these bands that come out now still pay hommage to Eddie as a player, to old Van Halen, and cover their stuff live. I'd say VH is far from forgotten by every musician, not EVERYONE embraced Kurt Nobrain.Webmaster
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I'll admit that I like a few Nirvana songs but come on, Kurt Cobain should not even be mentioned in the same breath as EVH as a guitar player.
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Originally posted by Ou812max:
I'll admit that I like a few Nirvana songs but come on, Kurt Cobain should not even be mentioned in the same breath as EVH as a guitar player.
P.S. Sorry about the Bronc's dude. Tough night.WHAT IS UNDERSTOOD NEED NOT BE DISCUSSED!
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Originally posted by famac@nuveen.com:
People get so defensive about Nirvana around here. I thought the story was funny because a guy who was a heroin addict thought Eddie was really wasted. He must have really been out there.
Who cares how many records Van Halen sold or Nirvana sold?
But I'll tell you what: ten years after Nirvana was on the charts, you can still here their influence in modern music. No one is tapping anymore, at least outside players posting at this site.
Far as nobody 'tapping' nowadays, there are still plenty who do, from Dream Theater's John Petrucci to the amazing Buckethead(now with Guns n' Roses). Many guys do it but only do it live in concert.. But man, if you feel that 'tapping' is EVH's only contribution to guitar, you are insane. It's actually pretty miniscule in the grand scheme. I have repeated on here many times all the current players I have read in Guitar World Magazine over the last 2 or 3 years alone who have said they grew up on VH and list VH as an influence/inspiration. Here are some of those people again..
Daron Malakian- Systen Of A Down
John Petrucci - Dream Theater
Mike Mushok - Staind
Mike Einzeger - Incubus
Carl Bell & Brett Scallions - Fuel
Dino Cazares - Fear Factory
Head - Korn
John Lowery - Marylin Manson
Morgan Lander - Kittie
Mike Tempesta - Powerman 5000
Buckethead - new Guns n' Roses
Stephen Carpenter - The Deftones
Tony Rombola - Godsmack
Mark Tremonti - Creed
Tom Morello - Rage Against the Machine/Audioslave
Jack Black - Tenacious D
Rivers Cuomo - Weezer
Ramond Oritz - Puya
Some of these dudes have even gone as far as stating they got into rock music and guitar cuz of VH.. So much for no VH influence these days..
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I'm not bagging on Nirvana by any means. I loved them when they exploded with the Nevermind CD. But, I didn't like In Utero at all. Unplugged in N.Y. was also good. But....Van Halen was probably the only "old" band that was able to exist throught the whole grunge period. That's something to be accounted for. Now, who the fuck cares if Ed was plastered and was supposedly "Begging" to jam? I'm sure Kurt had his moments in public too. Remember Axl Rose was going to kick his ass at the M.T.V. music awards? God damn, people always seem to make mountains out of mole hills, and blow everything waaaaay out of proportion these days. I get a kick out of that, a heroin junkie throwing darts at an alcoholic.
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Originally posted by Badabing:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by famac@nuveen.com:
People get so defensive about Nirvana around here. I thought the story was funny because a guy who was a heroin addict thought Eddie was really wasted. He must have really been out there.
Who cares how many records Van Halen sold or Nirvana sold?
But I'll tell you what: ten years after Nirvana was on the charts, you can still here their influence in modern music. No one is tapping anymore, at least outside players posting at this site.
Far as nobody 'tapping' nowadays, there are still plenty who do, from Dream Theater's John Petrucci to the amazing Buckethead(now with Guns n' Roses). Many guys do it but only do it live in concert.. But man, if you feel that 'tapping' is EVH's only contribution to guitar, you are insane. It's actually pretty miniscule in the grand scheme. I have repeated on here many times all the current players I have read in Guitar World Magazine over the last 2 or 3 years alone who have said they grew up on VH and list VH as an influence/inspiration. Here are some of those people again..
Daron Malakian- Systen Of A Down
John Petrucci - Dream Theater
Mike Mushok - Staind
Mike Einzeger - Incubus
Carl Bell & Brett Scallions - Fuel
Dino Cazares - Fear Factory
Head - Korn
John Lowery - Marylin Manson
Morgan Lander - Kittie
Mike Tempesta - Powerman 5000
Buckethead - new Guns n' Roses
Stephen Carpenter - The Deftones
Tony Rombola - Godsmack
Mark Tremonti - Creed
Tom Morello - Rage Against the Machine/Audioslave
Jack Black - Tenacious D
Rivers Cuomo - Weezer
Ramond Oritz - Puya
Some of these dudes have even gone as far as stating they got into rock music and guitar cuz of VH.. So much for no VH influence these days..</font>[/QUOTE]I totally agree with ya bro! You can still hear Eddie's influence on guitar today eventhough alot of guitarists arent tapping anymore. You mentioned one of my favorites and that's Mike Mushok..I love his sound and I really dig the band as a whole. If any of you have heard Break the Cycle you can hear that Mike's songs are really melodic now and I think that definetley comes from EVH's influence on him amongst others of course. And if you listend to Fade the melody in the chorus reminds me of a dark Halen tune circa '81 or somethin. Tapping might be gone from mainstream rock, but EVH's influence i think can clearly be heard. Just my thoughts"It's always a Catch-22 situation. They hate you if you're the same, and they hate you if you're different."
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eddie van halen and steve vai played together? when was this?
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While Cobain's guitar playing was not very influential, his vocal style certainly was - and most importantly Nirvana's drum sound was super influential.
Let's not forget that in the eighties (even Van Halen's 1984) electronic drums became trendy and the hard rock world suffered. Even the mighty Lars Urlich used electronic drums on And Justice For All.
But this is a Van Halen site...
Back to the tapping thinkg: can anyone tell me one thing Eddie Van Halen did for the world of electric guitar besides tapping?
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